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    Re: Poll: Most oppose closing Gitmo

    Gitmo is an acid test for me.

    Anyone who wants to shut it down, I immediately dismiss as irrelevant to any discussion.

    Closing Gitmo is an idiotic idea coming from idiotic ideology. No intellectually honest person could possibly be for this.

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    Re: Poll: Most oppose closing Gitmo

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Terrorists should not be placed in civilian prisons on US soil. That implies they are criminals under US law.

    Terrorists are not criminals. They are illegal enemy combatants, operating beyond the sanction of both US law and the Geneva Conventions, and their detention needs to be reflective of this.
    But Hardin apparently has a big prison standing empty. Since there are no civilians in it and it is not being used why not use it for enemy combatants?

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    Re: Poll: Most oppose closing Gitmo

    Why wouldn't we want to house enemy combatants that we are detaining on our soil?

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    Re: Poll: Most oppose closing Gitmo

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    I'm actually coming around to sending them all to Montana. Hardin, Montana wants them, has a big empty prison, has an armed populace in favor of taking them and so why not?
    GD you!!! How dare you want to dirty up one of the most beautiful states in the union. Keep'em down there with the commies.
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    Re: Poll: Most oppose closing Gitmo

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    Why wouldn't we want to house enemy combatants that we are detaining on our soil?
    illegal enemy combatants.

    Keep them out of civilian prisons and out of the tender mercies of civilian law.

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    Re: Poll: Most oppose closing Gitmo

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    That's a cop out, and a load of horse manure to boot. That's like refusing to smack the school bully because "fighting never solves anything", then standing by wailing helplessly while said bully helps himself to your lunch money.
    Your the one slinging horse manure here. And it's your attitude that is a detriment this country right now. Rising above the mud to treat our captives with some level of decency, to honor human rights is not copping out. What Redress said in no way equates to your nonsensical assertion.

    We have captured the enemy, disarmed them, and they are now our prisoner. We've done something and the threat they posed has been neutralized. Now we treat them like humans, despite their crimes, and we try them. If our case is sound they will be convicted. And the threat will remain neutralized.

    We do not honor the human rights of our citizens simply because they are citizens. We honor them because we have an obligation as a civilized nation to act civilized.

    Every time you spout garbage that equates observing human rights to "doing nothing about the enemy" you make yourself look foolish. Torturing the enemy or treating them inhumanely is not fighting them. Your analogy is illogical and very disingenuous.
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    Re: Poll: Most oppose closing Gitmo

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    Your the one slinging horse manure here. And it's your attitude that is a detriment this country right now. Rising above the mud to treat our captives with some level of decency, to honor human rights is not copping out. What Redress said in no way equates to your nonsensical assertion.

    We have captured the enemy, disarmed them, and they are now our prisoner. We've done something and the threat they posed has been neutralized. Now we treat them like humans, despite their crimes, and we try them. If our case is sound they will be convicted. And the threat will remain neutralized.

    We do not honor the human rights of our citizens simply because they are citizens. We honor them because we have an obligation as a civilized nation to act civilized.

    Every time you spout garbage that equates observing human rights to "doing nothing about the enemy" you make yourself look foolish. Torturing the enemy or treating them inhumanely is not fighting them. Your analogy is illogical and very disingenuous.
    Changes nothing, no reason to bring them up here.
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    Re: Poll: Most oppose closing Gitmo

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    illegal enemy combatants.

    Keep them out of civilian prisons and out of the tender mercies of civilian law.
    Can't that be done while also housing them in the big empty prison in Montana? Montana is the only state that wants them.

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    Re: Poll: Most oppose closing Gitmo

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    can't that be done while also housing them in the big empty prison in montana? Montana is the only state that wants them.
    stop it! I order you to stop saying montana!
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    Re: Poll: Most oppose closing Gitmo

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    GD you!!! How dare you want to dirty up one of the most beautiful states in the union. Keep'em down there with the commies.
    The beautiful state has a big empty prison that drains on their economy. The people of Hardin want the prison to be used. They want the jobs putting it to use will bring.

    It's max security so it's not like you have to worry about them escaping or anything.

    I guess I don't see what the issue is.

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