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lol@defense for the other communist monarchy. Power to the proletariat indeed.
Is there some reason I should not expect you to troll or tell me I'm wrong if I respond to this question?:rofl
Something you may wanna know about this soviet. When you say something he cant make an intelligent comeback to or something that doesnt suit him, apparently your "trolling". Pathetic.
1. And you're the authority on the subject because...
2. The DPRK doesn't even consider themself "Communist". They have no Communist Party, and adhere to the neo-Confucian ideology of Juche, not Marxism-Leninism.
I already rebutted a long collection of rambling about socialism that you posted the other day...shouldn't you be getting around to responding to that?
I thought I had responded but you kept insisting on ignoring what I was saying and entering into a never ending circle of futility by running off to the next unsubstantiated assertion; in other words, I let you have the last word in an endeavor that was futile when you don't even comprehend the other side’s arguments and facts.
Here, let's try this again; start a new thread in the partisan political forum were you first define what YOU think Socialism means and what YOUR version of what Capitalism means; then;
Where has a Socialist economic model ever worked better than a Capitalist economic model?
Please post economic data that supports your assertions from credible sources.
I will be more than happy to respond there. I don't want to de-rail this thread with your desperate assertions about what constitutes Socialism.
Actually, why don't you do that, since you seem to enjoy setting parameters? I would have had you in a True Debate a while ago...
I am not the one desperately trying to defend the OBVIOUS failures of Communist and Socialist philosophies in every thread, why should I start a thread defending a philosophy I know is a failure?
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You're the one nitpicking about parameters, which I care not the slightest bit about. I also don't need to go out of my way to engage someone who lacks an understanding of socialist political economy and merely refers to state capitalism...unless you have something more interesting to provide?
Is there some reason I should not expect you to troll or tell me I'm wrong if I respond to this question?
Well apparently your comments are in conflict with your assertions. You definitely appear to be desperately trying to engage me in my lack of understanding of Socialist Political Economy and I gave you the chance to ENGAGE and EDUCATE me. If not, why do you continually bring it up?
If you have nothing but empty whiney blather, just say so; I am the one who knows it is so obvious, you're the one in denial.
OR, perhaps you truly are uninterested in a substantive coherent debate and merely wanting to troll here and merely wish to insult me personally?
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Don't flatter yourself. I merely objected to your repetition of standard rightist talking points that had generally all been destroyed in the last thread that you inaccurately referred to state capitalism in. It seemed incumbent upon you to respond to the first rebuttals of your comments before merely repeating them.
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As opposed to your repetition of your farcical "leftist" talking points which have all but been destroyed by the historic FACTS?
Carry on. :2wave:
Where has a Socialist economic model ever worked better than a Capitalist economic model? .
I can only hope you're being sarcastic. There's certainly no other anarchists here that I'm aware of, and I've never encountered another anarchist with a strong interest in labor economics, so I have no "talking points" to repeat.
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lol@defense for the other communist monarchy. Power to the proletariat indeed.
Something you may wanna know about this soviet. When you say something he cant make an intelligent comeback to or something that doesnt suit him, apparently your "trolling". Pathetic.
I don't care what you ATTEMPT to claim; North Korea's regime is the epitomy of typical Communist ideals and nations who claim adherence to Marxist Principles. The outcome is the SAME regardless of how you attempt to avoid it or call it something else; total control of the society by a SINGLE party, total control of the economy and total control over the people with NO freedom of speech or ability to LEAVE the country.
Does it ever cause any wonder to the Socialist Defenders why nations who have such policies have to create policies that prevent their citizens from leaving?
What we have here is a Stalinist Communist inventing his own word to describe his desire to control every aspect of North Korean society to the detriment and starvation of his own people.
North Korea was supported by the USSR and it's government set up on the USSR image.
If you can't answer the question just say so, pre-emptivley accusing me of trolling because you don't want to answer the question is rather ironic, no?
Actually the country is ruled by the Workers' Party of Korea, not a Communist Party, and its guiding ideology is Juche, not Marxism-Leninism.
pfft Juche is a reaction to de-Stalinization in the Soviet Union, Juche=Stalinism.
You have no evidence to suggest a communist economic structure works better than a capitalist one. What large, powerful communist economy could you possibly use as an example, past or present, that has surpassed the power and economic abilities of a large, powerful capitalist economy like the US for example? Isnt that a sign in itself that Karl Marx was obviously stoned when he invented the pathetic idea of an economic structure that is purely "efficient".