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    Re: Army Recruiter Killed In Little Rock Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    The story is the death of some unknown person. That is why it won't be reported on in detail by every news agency. There are many murders every day. The news realistically won't fully cover everyone one.

    The doctor being killed is covered because the doctor was a controversial figure and tied to a controversial subject. If the Army Recruiter was having an affair with married Political official or something like that then his death would have been more widely reported on. It has nothing to do with "pro-choice media" and everything to do with elaborate drama based stories.

    Sadly, we are at a point in society where "someone was killed" isn't breaking news, it's an every day occurrence. We sit in our homes and say "that's sad" and then continue eating our dinner.
    But you don't get it. Targeted assassination versus one loan nut.

    Typology of a terrorist:

    The FBI's classification of terrorism into international and domestic is based on geography and not on the goal of the behavior. According to the FBI typology, international terrorism has three subcategories based on the structural organization of the various groups: loosely affiliated extremists, formal terrorist organizations, and state sponsors of terrorism. The first category of international terrorism, loosely affiliated extremists, includes Sunni Islamic extremists, such as Osama bin Laden and those affiliated with his Al-Qaeda organization--individuals from varying nationalities, ethnic groups, tribes, races, and terrorist groups who support extremist Sunni goals. The common element among these diverse individuals is that they are committed to the radical international jihad movement, whose ideology includes promoting violence against the "enemies of Islam" in order to overthrow all governments not ruled by conservative Islamic law. Foreshadowing the American tragedy, in the congressional statement dated May 10, 2001, loosely affiliated extremists were considered the most urgent threat to the US because their goals consisted of carrying out large scale, high profile, high casualty terrorist attacks against US interests and citizens.

    The second category of international terrorism, formal terrorist organizations, includes extremist groups such as the Palestinian Hamas, the Irish Republican Army, the Egyptian Al-Gama Al-Islamiyya, and the Lebanese Hizballah. They are characterized as autonomous, generally transnational organizations that have their own infrastructures, personnel, financial arrangements, and training facilities. They have a presence in the US, with members engaged in fund-raising, recruiting, and intelligence gathering. Additionally, they maintain operations and support networks in the US. Prior to September 11, the Hizballah were responsible for the deaths of more Americans than any other terrorist group.

    The third category of international terrorism is state sponsors of terrorism, consisting of countries that view terrorism as a tool of foreign policy. At the time of the May 10 congressional statement, the Department of State listed seven countries as state sponsors of terrorism: Iran, Iraq, Sudan, Libya, Syria, Cuba, and North Korea. Iran represented the greatest threat to the US because it supports financially and logistically anti-Western acts of terrorism by others.

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    Re: Army Recruiter Killed In Little Rock Shooting

    I am glad Sarge brought this up as I was also bothered by the way the LA Times reported BOTH of these events in their pages and I believe he is 100% CORRECT in the OBVIOUS bias with the medias treatment of this issue versus Tillman story. Here are the articles in the Los Angeles Times:

    Muslim convert pleads not guilty in killing of soldier
    Danny Johnston / Associated Press
    HELD WITHOUT BAIL: Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad, 23, is charged with murder and 15 counts of engaging in a terrorist act. One soldier was killed and another wounded.

    Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad, 23, is charged with murder and 15 counts of engaging in a terrorist act in connection with a shooting at a military recruiting office in Little Rock, Ark.

    Muhammad, who was known previously as Carlos Bledsoe, acted alone and was not part of a larger plot, said Cassandra Davis, a spokeswoman for the Little Rock Police Department. She said Muhammad previously lived in Memphis, Tenn., and Nashville and had recently moved to Little Rock.

    Muslim convert pleads not guilty in killing of soldier - Los Angeles Times

    Suspect in Kansas abortion doctor's slaying reportedly belonged to anti-government militia

    The 51-year-old man held on suspicion of killing prominent abortion provider Dr. George Tiller belonged to anti-government militia groups, had been convicted of carrying explosives in his car and was outraged by the doctor's speedy acquittal on abortion-related charges, authorities and antiabortion activists said Monday.

    Suspect in Kansas abortion doctor's slaying reportedly belonged to anti-government militia - Los Angeles Times


    The pertinent FACTS are that a mere single small column is devoted to the story regarding a Muslim “convert” murdering military personnel outside of recruiting offices and quickly assumes that he is NOT associated with ANY groups.

    But with an abortion clinic murderer, there are several MULTI-page articles every day with the most recent making a POINT to state that this man was connected to "evil" militias and to perhaps suggest that this is the NORM for these militia types.

    The agenda is clear to anyone who has an OPEN mind and wants the FACTS; Muslims are off limits and Christian anti-abortion crowds are evil and to be impugned as being part of groups that should be outlawed.

    The bias contained in these similar stories is OBVIOUS; it is WORSE to murder a late term abortion doctor than it is to murder military recruits.

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    Re: Army Recruiter Killed In Little Rock Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Targeted assassinations occur everyday. This was actually one of many this week.

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    Oh fyi that's the argument for the death penalty NO HOSTAGES!!!
    In America we do not have jihadist shootings/murders everyday. In fact since 9-11 we havn't had hardly any. This story should be promenent but it is not because the media is biased. Tiller the killer's story is still in the media and will continue to be.

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    Re: Army Recruiter Killed In Little Rock Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    The story is the death of some unknown person. That is why it won't be reported on in detail by every news agency. There are many murders every day. The news realistically won't fully cover everyone one.

    The doctor being killed is covered because the doctor was a controversial figure and tied to a controversial subject. If the Army Recruiter was having an affair with married Political official or something like that then his death would have been more widely reported on. It has nothing to do with "pro-choice media" and everything to do with elaborate drama based stories.

    Sadly, we are at a point in society where "someone was killed" isn't breaking news, it's an every day occurrence. We sit in our homes and say "that's sad" and then continue eating our dinner.
    The fact is a soldier was killed in Little Rock by a terrorist who received training in Yeman. Its not just a run of the mill everyday murder.
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    Re: Army Recruiter Killed In Little Rock Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    The pertinent FACTS are that a mere single small column is devoted to the story regarding a Muslim “convert” murdering military personnel outside of recruiting offices and quickly assumes that he is NOT associated with ANY groups.
    Are you suggesting that, since this murderer is Muslim, we should assume this man successfully committed a terrorist attack on American soil and it is not just a murderer? The article quickly points out that this man was merely a Muslim and not connected to any group, to remove the thought that this was a terrorist attack.

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    But with an abortion clinic murderer, there are several MULTI-page articles every day with the most recent making a POINT to state that this man was connected to "evil" militias and to perhaps suggest that this is the NORM for these militia types.
    Scott Roeder, Tiller's murderer, was a former member of Montana Freemen (an antii-government group) and alleged current member of the anti-government group Sovereign Citizen Movement, he was also convicted have having bomb making materials in his car in the 90's and is diagnosed schizophrenic.

    But since he's not a Muslim labeling him a terrorist is just wrong.


    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    The agenda is clear to anyone who has an OPEN mind and wants the FACTS; Muslims are off limits and Christian anti-abortion crowds are evil and to be impugned as being part of groups that should be outlawed.

    The bias contained in these similar stories is OBVIOUS; it is WORSE to murder a late term abortion doctor than it is to murder military recruits.
    Yes your agenda and biases are clear in every post you make.
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    Re: Army Recruiter Killed In Little Rock Shooting

    I'm guessing that this story didn't make big headlines for the following reasons:

    1. People are shot and killed every single day for a wide variety of reasons. What makes this case so special? Is it because he's Muslim and possibly did it for religious purposes? This isn't a big terrorist plot. It was one man shooting two men (one wounded, the other dead). Not only that, but this was in a mostly rural state. It seems to me that if it was a big terrorist plot they would have targeted something far bigger than two men outside of a recruitment station in Little Rock, Arkansas.

    2. As it stated in the article, there is no indication that he did anything other than act alone in this. The FBI is involved and I'm sure if there is a bigger plot at work here it will get headlines.

    3. Not everyone is on a crusade to demonize Islam, least of all the media. We are in a War on Terror, but this was one guy most likely acting alone. I'm sure that this would get bigger headlines if it warranted bigger headlines. Don't get me wrong, I hope this guy gets punished to the fullest extent of the law and I feel horrible for the man who died and his family. However, I still don't think that it warrants big headlines.

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    Re: Army Recruiter Killed In Little Rock Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    The fact is a soldier was killed in Little Rock by a terrorist who received training in Yeman. Its not just a run of the mill everyday murder.
    What???? But the LA Times reports claim he was NOT affiliated with any organization?!! How can this be???

    I thought that Obama represented the change terrorists can believe in and that they will now sit down and talk to Obama and see that he understands and “empathizes” with their pain and they will not continue attacking us!!

    There is a reason Rush calls them the "drive-by" media. The media rarely care to vet stories these days, they just take whatever it is they get off the wire and cut and paste it into their papers.

    It is much like the story of the missing Air France story...they all start with the same uninformed talking point...then as the facts come in, continue parroting whatever theory is thrown out there without any investigative effort.

    BUT, if it is a cause, perhaps like the murder of an abortionist, they will run numerous long articles and investigate the hell out of it until they can either prove it was due to right wing extremists or George Bush's fault.

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    Re: Army Recruiter Killed In Little Rock Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    The fact is a soldier was killed in Little Rock by a terrorist who received training in Yeman. Its not just a run of the mill everyday murder.
    What training did he receive in Yemen? I haven't read anything about that from any news source so far.
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    Re: Army Recruiter Killed In Little Rock Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    The fact is a soldier was killed in Little Rock by a terrorist who received training in Yeman. Its not just a run of the mill everyday murder.



    That's because the media is following Obama's rule that there is no "war on terror" anymore.
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    Re: Army Recruiter Killed In Little Rock Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    But you don't get it. Targeted assassination versus one loan nut.
    So you're suggesting that Tiller's murderer didn't plan to kill Tiller but just walked into the church and randomly picked Tiller out as a victim?
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