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    Re: White House Seeks a Proper Invitation for the Queen

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    I don't know about you but it goes deeper than the Queen herself to the institution itself. Perhaps Charles will not be anywhere near his mother but I would still support him as much, or almost as much at least.
    I can't support Charles, i do not think he would do the Monarch justice. Especially after the Queen never missing a beat or putting a step out of line.

    I think for the sake of the Monarch and its continuation, Charles should abdicate.


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    Re: White House Seeks a Proper Invitation for the Queen

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    I can't support Charles, i do not think he would do the Monarch justice. Especially after the Queen never missing a beat or putting a step out of line.

    I think for the sake of the Monarch and its continuation, Charles should abdicate.
    Firstly Charles is nowhere near as bad as all that. He even has some interesting views on organic farming and the environment. Secondly abdication would not help the institution which is built around hereditary succession. He is likely to be our monarch and if one has respect for the institution, as opposed to simply an individual who has occupied the throne, then one should support Charles.

    We don't have to support everyone no matter what they do, James II looked likely to subvert our church and gov't and his removal, largely his own fault, was perhaps justified(perhaps it was not quite but this perhaps is not the time to get into such discussions.) but I see little to indicate Charles is anywhere near such a monarch.
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    Re: White House Seeks a Proper Invitation for the Queen

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    I can't support Charles, i do not think he would do the Monarch justice. Especially after the Queen never missing a beat or putting a step out of line.

    I think for the sake of the Monarch and its continuation, Charles should abdicate.
    Firstly Charles is nowhere near as bad as all that. He even has some interesting views on organic farming and the environment. Secondly abdication would not help the institution which is built around hereditary succession. He is likely to be our monarch and if one has respect for the institution, as opposed to simply an individual who has occupied the throne, then one should support Charles.

    We don't have to support everyone no matter what they do, James II looked likely to subvert our church and gov't and his removal, largely his own fault, was perhaps justified(perhaps it was not quite but this perhaps is not the time to get into such discussions.) but I see little to indicate Charles is anywhere near such a monarch.
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    Re: White House Seeks a Proper Invitation for the Queen

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    Well the first article I read about this said it was Brittan. But what ev.

    Big deal, really.

    Wait a minute. She was Queen of Canada, too. So she DID send more troops to Normandy than anybody.
    No She Didn't neither did her mother who happen to be the Queen at the time. Yes Canadian Troops were part of the British Operation but where not under Allied Command which mean Ike was in Charge.

    And yes it is a big deal when you miss-quote actual historic information.

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    Re: White House Seeks a Proper Invitation for the Queen

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    No She Didn't neither did her mother who happen to be the Queen at the time. Yes Canadian Troops were part of the British Operation but where not under Allied Command which mean Ike was in Charge.

    And yes it is a big deal when you miss-quote actual historic information.
    They were still the Monarch's subjects. The monarch didn't make many decisions anyway, so it is a bit pointless talking about who was in charge of them.
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    Re: White House Seeks a Proper Invitation for the Queen

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Yep, head of state of both Canada and Britain.
    Not to mention it was her father, who authorized the operation if i remember
    No her father didn't authorize Operation Overlord that came from FDR and Churchill who were the real Head(s) of Sttae one was the President of the United State and the other Prime Minister of England.

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    Re: White House Seeks a Proper Invitation for the Queen

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    No her father didn't authorize Operation Overlord that came from FDR and Churchill who were the real Head(s) of Sttae one was the President of the United State and the other Prime Minister of England.
    No Churchill was not our head of state. He himself would have no doubt disagreed heartily with that assertion. A minister's power technically comes from the sovereign.
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    Re: White House Seeks a Proper Invitation for the Queen

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    No She Didn't neither did her mother who happen to be the Queen at the time. Yes Canadian Troops were part of the British Operation but where not under Allied Command which mean Ike was in Charge.

    And yes it is a big deal when you miss-quote actual historic information.
    In this case it's petty and trivial and hardly relevant to the fact that the
    Queen was not invited to anniversary ceremony in France.

    There were more Canadian and British soldiers than American soldiers. Live with it.

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    Re: White House Seeks a Proper Invitation for the Queen

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    No her father didn't authorize Operation Overlord that came from FDR and Churchill who were the real Head(s) of Sttae one was the President of the United State and the other Prime Minister of England.
    Churchill is not head of state, the PMs are the subject of her majesty. Everyone knows that.
    UK's head of state is the sitting Monarch


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    Re: White House Seeks a Proper Invitation for the Queen

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    If Brown had any inkling of what it means to be her majesty's Prime minister, to occupy the seat of Pitt, Disraeli and Churchill, he would refuse to attend unless the Queen is invited.
    He also occupies the chair of Neville Chamberlain. Just sayin'.
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