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    Re: Cheney Says There Was No Iraq Link to 9/11 Attacks

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Mid September, right after the 911 attacks.
    He had always listed, throughout his campaign and since, the reasons why the nation might depart from this policy, reasons he had given as acceptable for running fiscal deficits: for war, recession, or emergency. As he said to me in mid-September, "Lucky me. I hit the trifecta."

    If you read that and come away thinking that Bush was "gloating" to his budget director, I don't know what to tell you.
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    Re: Cheney Says There Was No Iraq Link to 9/11 Attacks

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Mid September, right after the 911 attacks.

    "For War, recession, or emergency"
    Days after.....and has the time to be sarcastic against his nation in need.

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    Re: Cheney Says There Was No Iraq Link to 9/11 Attacks

    This thread turned petty much quicker than I guessed.

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    Re: Cheney Says There Was No Iraq Link to 9/11 Attacks

    Quote Originally Posted by goldendog View Post
    Days after.....and has the time to be sarcastic against his nation in need.
    I'm sure it took a lot of time and effort to recite that six word quip.

    BUSH QUIPPED, AMERICA GOT GYPPED!
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    Re: Cheney Says There Was No Iraq Link to 9/11 Attacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Does that mean you have changed your position here?
    No not at all. My position there was to congratulate Cherokee on posting what he considered his source. It was the "citation" portion I was slapping his back over.

    If you read the thread I didn't actually agree with him. He broke his style and actually posted source info. Albeit he was just attempting to bury you with text.

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    Re: Cheney Says There Was No Iraq Link to 9/11 Attacks

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Rather than 911 getting in the way of Bush's plans, I believe it helped them greatly. In Cheney's paper, Restoring America's Defenses, he wrote that doing a makeover in the Middle East would be impossible without a new "Pearl Harbor". Bush also knew what 911 would mean for his Middle East plans, and remarked after the attacks "I just hit the trifecta".
    Project for a New American Century.

    9/11 provided the catalyst and the neo-cons jumped at it. I think Bush's actual motivations for Iraq were slightly different than Cheney's, Wolfowitz's, Rove's, and Rumsfelds though.

    Bush was more idealistic if you ask me.
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    Re: Cheney Says There Was No Iraq Link to 9/11 Attacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    Project for a New American Century.

    9/11 provided the catalyst and the neo-cons jumped at it. I think Bush's actual motivations for Iraq were slightly different than Cheney's, Wolfowitz's, Rove's, and Rumsfelds though.

    Bush was more idealistic if you ask me.
    They were all idealistic. The idea that anyone did this for money or oil is just idiotic and simplistic.

    Whatever people might think of the end result, these people genuinely believed that our decision to invade Iraq would end up as a net positive for the US and the world.
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    Re: Cheney Says There Was No Iraq Link to 9/11 Attacks

    Cheney said today that information by the Central Intelligence Agency of collaboration between Iraq and al-Qaeda on Sept. 11 “turned out not to be true.” Still, Cheney said a longstanding relationship existed between Hussein and terrorist groups, including al-Qaeda, that justified the U.S. invasion of Iraq in 2003.

    “I thought it was strong at the time and I still feel so today,” Cheney said at a National Press Club lunch in Washington. “There was a relationship between al-Qaeda and Iraq that stretched back 10 years. That’s not something I made up.” Citing 2002 Senate testimony by George Tenet, then the CIA director, he said, “We know for a fact that Saddam Hussein was a state sponsor of terrorism.”

    On whether Hussein helped al-Qaeda carry out the 2001 terrorist attacks, Cheney said, “I do not believe, and I have never seen any evidence, that he was involved in 9/11.”
    Pssh, i've been saying that for years that US and UK didn't give a **** about Iraqi freedom. They only made that bull**** up when they couldn't find the [non existent] WMD's.

    You think the British or Americans would have supported it if they said we want to free Iraqis? Please. We could have spent our resources elsewhere, perhaps stopping genocides

    Well, we're boned and have been drained of money. A rather fitting and amusing result of this war on terror.


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    Re: Cheney Says There Was No Iraq Link to 9/11 Attacks

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    They were all idealistic. The idea that anyone did this for money or oil is just idiotic and simplistic.
    It was about oil, but not for personal gain from oil. It was about establishing a U.S. sphere of influence in the oil rich region. It was about American interests. Saddam was not an actual threat, but he was ripe for removal. And he was an asshole.

    The difference in the ideals however is very important. Bush's ideals were much more simplistic relatively speaking than say Cheney's or Wolfowitz's.
    Whatever people might think of the end result, these people genuinely believed that our decision to invade Iraq would end up as a net positive for the US
    I agree right here.
    and the world.
    I disagree to some extent. The invasion of Iraq was not a about a net positive for Russia, China, Iran, North Korea, etc. It was a parochial move, for the furtherance of U.S. interests primarily.
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    Re: Cheney Says There Was No Iraq Link to 9/11 Attacks

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    So when did Cheney ever say there was a link between Iraq and the 9/11 attacks?
    CNN.com - Cheney blasts media on*al Qaeda-Iraq link - Jun 18, 2004

    Both Cheney and President Bush are strongly disputing suggestions that the commission's conclusion that there were no Iraqi fingerprints on the 9/11 attacks contradicts statements they made in the run-up to the Iraq war about links between Iraq and al Qaeda.
    The Raw Story | Cheney ties Iraq, al-Qaeda again after fielding question from his own official biographer

    Vice President Dick Cheney, in a press conference during a surprise visit to Iraq, again stated that it was "pretty clear" there was a link between Iraq and al-Qaeda before Sep. 11.

    Reminded of the release last week of an exhaustive Pentagon report which concluded that there were no ties between Saddam Hussein and the terror network, Cheney answered, "Well, it says no operational link. But there was, as I recall from looking at it, extensive links with Egyptian Islamic Jihad. Egyptian Islamic Jihad was the organization headed by Zawahiri, and he merged EIJ with al-Qaeda when he became the deputy director of al-Qaeda, Osama bin Laden's number two.
    NewsMax.com: Inside Cover Story

    Cheney also cited reports of a meeting between lead 9/11 hijacker Mohamed Atta and an Iraqi in intelligence agent in Prague just months before the attacks, saying that U.S. intelligence has not yet been able confirm or discredit the information.

    In perhaps his most startling remarks, the vice president became the first White House official to argue that there was a link between Saddam Hussein and al Qaeda's attempt to destroy the World Trade Center in 1993, telling Russert:

    "We know, for example, in connection with the original World Trade Center bombing in '93 that one of the bombers was Iraqi, returned to Iraq after the attack of '93. And we've learned subsequent to that, since we went into Baghdad and got into the intelligence files, that this individual probably also received financing from the Iraqi government as well as safe haven."
    And finally :

    Iraq, 9/11 Still Linked Cheney

    [Cheney] described Iraq as "the geographic base of the terrorists who have had us under assault for many years, but most especially on 9/11." Neither the CIA nor the congressional joint inquiry that investigated the assault on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon found any evidence linking Iraq to the hijackers or the attacks. President Bush corrected Cheney's statement several days later.
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