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    Re: General Rick Sanchez Calls for War Crimes Truth Commission

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    Well, I agree with that completely. And no doubt a lot of people on the right have already thrown General Patraeus under the bus for making his comments, I'm sure they'll have no qualms about doing it to General Sanchez, if they aren't already doing so.
    At some point in the process the question of "credibility" will rise to the top of the debate and has already started to happen.

    Who is more credible?
    Cheney who is lying and throwing troops under the bus in a attempt to save his and Bush's legacies?

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    THe growing number of Generals who are supporting The President while demanding the truth be told about warcrimes? To come clean?

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    Re: General Rick Sanchez Calls for War Crimes Truth Commission

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    Are you seriously trying to assert that people on the left aren't celebrating a little that these generals are finally agreeing with what they've thought all along about the Iraq war?
    I'm not "celebrating" per se, but I'm quite glad that these men are speaking out. You have military leaders under the Bush administration who were directly involved with the planning and running of operations making statements that confirm what many of us had already reasoned based upon the available information. We were called troop haters, anti-American, defeatists...and now this promises to offer some vindication.

    And what are our detractors to do now that men such as Colin Powell, General Petraeus,General Sanchez, and General Taguba are validating our positions? Try to force the focus on the assertion that "the left" impugned their reputations in the past but now only use them for partisan political reasons. That doesn't even make sense. If you strip all the partisan politics away, these men have said what they said. It's is critical of the Bush administration and lends credence to what many of us were saying for quite some time.
    *insert profound statement here*

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    Re: General Rick Sanchez Calls for War Crimes Truth Commission

    Quote Originally Posted by goldendog View Post
    At some point in the process the question of "credibility" will rise to the top of the debate and has already started to happen.

    Who is more credible?
    Cheney who is lying and throwing troops under the bus in a attempt to save his and Bush's legacies?

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    THe growing number of Generals who are supporting The President while demanding the truth be told about warcrimes? To come clean?
    I don't trust Cheney at all, but I am certainly not going to trust the generals without a healthy amount of skepticism. Most people are very self serving and are out for their own personal agendas.

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    Re: General Rick Sanchez Calls for War Crimes Truth Commission

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    Well, I agree with that completely. And no doubt a lot of people on the right have already thrown General Patraeus under the bus for making his comments, I'm sure they'll have no qualms about doing it to General Sanchez, if they aren't already doing so.
    Spot on. Powell like Petraeus like Sanchez.
    *insert profound statement here*

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    Re: General Rick Sanchez Calls for War Crimes Truth Commission

    Sanchez is on Keith Olberman tonight discussing this issue...

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    Re: General Rick Sanchez Calls for War Crimes Truth Commission

    I am a democrat and I voted for Obama. I also believe that the truth should be found out about the torture techniques, or whatever label you want to put on them, but not for the purpose of crucifing the past administration.

    I disagreed with Bush on many things, but I agreed with the surge, with as much as many people within my own party hate to admit, worked in lowering the levels of violence on the ground. We should all be happy about any success either parties president has in keeping our nation safe. The Bush administration did many things that I hated, but I really believed that he, as well as Cheney truly believed that they were doing what was necessary to prevent further attacks on this nation.

    It is beyond my serious consideration that the men charged with leading this nation, regardless of party, are truly scheming to torture and kill people just to do it. They followed their heart and made the best judgement they could for what they knew. All in all it is just different practices for different people. Regardless, we are all Americans and in this together. If torture does not work, then lets not employ it. It is definitely not something we would want to engage in if unnecessary.

    We should support our president, no matter who that person is. Criticize freely, but please do not suggest that they are working to some hideous goal. They are using the abilities they have and the knowledge at hand to make very difficult decisions in the hardest job I could imagine. Bush was crazy on many things, but I do not question his or Cheney's intentions in trying to protect this country. Whatever comes of any investigations should be used to improve policy, not to attempt to ruin the reputations of men who tried their best, and were only after all human...

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    Re: General Rick Sanchez Calls for War Crimes Truth Commission

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    Are you seriously trying to assert that people on the left aren't celebrating a little that these generals are finally agreeing with what they've thought all along about the Iraq war?
    You're making a logical reach here. Saying that there were acts committed that need to be publicly addressed is one thing. But neither Sanchez or Petraeus has come out against the war.

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    Re: General Rick Sanchez Calls for War Crimes Truth Commission

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    Well, I agree with that completely. And no doubt a lot of people on the right have already thrown General Patraeus under the bus for making his comments, I'm sure they'll have no qualms about doing it to General Sanchez, if they aren't already doing so.


    You never heard of General Sanchez?..you have never seen the left use any of his comments in the past?
    You do not know that he is basically complaining because he got replaced by Petraeus?

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    Re: General Rick Sanchez Calls for War Crimes Truth Commission

    Quote Originally Posted by Triad View Post
    You never heard of General Sanchez?..you have never seen the left use any of his comments in the past?
    Define Left. And don't use the definition of anyone who disagrees with any of my exceedingly narrow and intolerant views.

    You do not know that he is basically complaining because he got replaced by Petraeus?
    Good luck proving this. If that was true, why didn't he say this earlier?

    And to put on my prophet hat, you won't have any replies other than rants and insults.
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    Re: General Rick Sanchez Calls for War Crimes Truth Commission

    Quote Originally Posted by goldendog View Post
    Care to comment on the General's point of View TD?
    Yeah, I hope he dies by his own word.
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