Good thing Im getting a Ford truck next week.
Jackboots always come in matched pairs, a left boot and a right boot.
If you don't accept that, then it is YOU who are the naive one.
It doesn't make GM any more competitive; it simply cripples the competition and make everyone less well-off, including the "middle class" who will see car prices in general skyrocket.I guess you don't even understand what you are saying. If high compensation are the reason GM can't compete the raising the compensation of it's competition makes GM competitive.
But then, that IS modern American liberalism in a nutshell.
2001-2008: Dissent is the highest form of patriotism.
2009-2016: Dissent is the highest form of racism.
2017-? (Probably): Dissent is the highest form of misogyny.
We have every single excuse but that actual reason for GMs demise.
It is the union's fault.
It is the massive healthcare cost of GM, plus lets throw in random UHC hatred.
And finally it is the union's fault again.
How about the truth for all you that are in denial?
GM made crap cars that were out dated before they even hit the market. Their management was crap and their whole business strategy was brain dead. Basicly, it was the managements fault, put in place by the greedy shareholders.
And Zimmer your crackpot "proof" about Europe's UHC system still dont fly even months after it was debunked by me.
If on the other hand I go to my boss and say, give me a raise or I'll shut your business down (strike), that is simple extortion, and never should have been legal.
To take a job, agree to the terms of employment and then try to force a change is the act of a common thug.
Last edited by Oftencold; 06-02-09 at 12:00 PM.
Quod scripsi, scripsi
But tell me this..
Is it the unions fault that the management of GM were a bunch of pansies that allowed the company to become a bloated cestpool?
Is it the unions fault that the management of GM decade after decade successfully bribed the US lawmakers to not implement fuel efficiency standards?
Is it the unions fault that the management of GM refused to accept the fact that oil would run out and that alternatives were needed? Or that the present cars were too expensive to run at a certain oil price because of the mileage issue?
Is it the unions fault that the management of GM and GM as a whole have produced substandard and crappy cars for decades?
As for the healthcare costs. Again, is it the unions fault that the GM management bent over and took it up the butt and allowed these things?
Is it the unions fault that the US healthcare system is a failure of epic poportions and driven by a bunch of greedy monopolistic companies that have driven prices up and up for years on end?
While I am the first to admit that the unions have damaged GM, no one can deny that the majority of the blame has to be put on the management of GM, put in place by the shareholders. It is their epic fails year after year, decade after decade, that have resulted in the demise of the once proud General Motors. The unions was only a small part in the grand scale of things, but seems to get most of the blame from the usual conservative persons on these boards and in the media.. frankly pathetic.