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    Re: GM goes bankrupt and gets nationalised

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    Yeah, how could that possibly work. I mean, we wouldn't want labor to have the upper hand over corporations... they might actually have to pay higher wages for the good of the country. Yeah, better to just keep allowing corps to turn our country into a third world labor market.
    Again: higher wages does not prosperity make.

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    Re: GM goes bankrupt and gets nationalised

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    Really? I think maybe you should take a history lesson. ALL nations have tariffs. This includes the USA which has had tariffs since it's founding.
    The higher the tariffs, the worse their economy will be. You still don't get it, but competition is an amazing thing.

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    Re: GM goes bankrupt and gets nationalised

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    No. Their government gives them money to cover the cost. It's called subsidizing.
    I would love to see proof that the Japanese government is paying for American's health insurance that work at American auto plants.

    I'll be waiting.

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    Re: GM goes bankrupt and gets nationalised

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    Ignorance really is blissful eh?
    You should know.

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    Re: GM goes bankrupt and gets nationalised

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    I did answer which is what you responded to.
    Yeah, just like you've answered all the questions on this thread.

    Really? What union(s) are you thinking of in NY?
    All of them.
    yeah, better to have stupid people so they can be easily controlled and believe whatever nonsense they are told.. like, your wages are just fine, you don't need a better standard of living.
    I've already answered this bigoted response of yours. Try again.

    I'm not the one saying things like ford workers bicker while toyota workers are all euphoric...
    You obviously don't work with UAW workers very often.

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    Re: GM goes bankrupt and gets nationalised

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    I would love to see proof that the Japanese government is paying for American's health insurance that work at American auto plants.

    I'll be waiting.
    He still refuses to acknowledge that:
    1. Subsidization is inherently inefficient.
    2. By subsidizing one industry, another industry is made weaker.

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    Re: GM goes bankrupt and gets nationalised

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    The higher the tariffs, the worse their economy will be. You still don't get it, but competition is an amazing thing.
    Oh I get it, just like you got how silly it was of you to denounce tariffs before flipping to acknowledge the fact that tariffs DO exist and HAVE always existed in this country. Now of course, you'd like to adjust your argument to say it's high tariffs that are a problem. Great so could you tell us which tariffs you believe to be harming the economy?

    I say it's a lack of tariffs that is doing the real damage.

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    Re: GM goes bankrupt and gets nationalised

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    Oh I get it, just like you got how silly it was of you to denounce tariffs before flipping to acknowledge the fact that tariffs DO exist and HAVE always existed in this country. Now of course, you'd like to adjust your argument to say it's high tariffs that are a problem. Great so could you tell us which tariffs you believe to be harming the economy?

    I say it's a lack of tariffs that is doing the real damage.
    I never changed my argument. Tariffs are still a bad idea. Don't try to me.

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    Re: GM goes bankrupt and gets nationalised

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    You should know.
    Single Payer Health Care Would Help Auto Industry | ePluribus Media

    While training issues are less of a problem here in Connecticut, because we have a decent educational system, healthcare is cited as a major issue for Toyota's decision to chose Ontario as the location of a new factory for their Rav-4s slated to open in 2008:

    "The level of the workforce in general is so high that the training program you need for people, even for people who have not worked in a Toyota plant before, is minimal compared to what you have to go through in the southeastern United States," said Gerry Fedchun, president of the Automotive Parts Manufacturers' Association, whose members will see increased business with the new plant.

    Acknowledging it was the "worst-kept secret" throughout Ontario's automotive industry, Toyota confirmed months of speculation Thursday by announcing plans to build a 1,300-worker factory in the southwestern Ontario city.

    "Welcome to Woodstock - that's something I've been waiting a long time to say," Ray Tanguay, president of Toyota Motor Manufacturing Canada, told hundreds gathered at a high school gymnasium.

    The plant will produce the RAV-4, dubbed by some as a "mini sport-utility vehicle" that Toyota currently makes only in Japan. It plans to build 100,000 vehicles annually.

    The factory will cost $800 million to build, with the federal and provincial governments kicking in $125 million of that to help cover research, training and infrastructure costs.

    Several U.S. states were reportedly prepared to offer more than double that amount of subsidy. But Fedchun said much of that extra money would have been eaten away by higher training costs than are necessary for the Woodstock project.


    He said Nissan and Honda have encountered difficulties getting new plants up to full production in recent years in Mississippi and Alabama due to an untrained - and often illiterate - workforce. In Alabama, trainers had to use "pictorials" to teach some illiterate workers how to use high-tech plant equipment.

    "The educational level and the skill level of the people down there is so much lower than it is in Ontario," Fedchun said.


    In addition to lower training costs, Canadian workers are also $4 to $5 cheaper to employ partly thanks to the taxpayer-funded health-care system in Canada, said federal Industry Minister David Emmerson.

    "Most people don't think of our health-care system as being a competitive advantage," he said.
    Yes I would know because I've been ignorant about many things throughout my life, the difference is that I am willing to change my position with better evidence. Are you?
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    Re: GM goes bankrupt and gets nationalised

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    All of them.
    That's what I thought, big hat, no cattle.

    I've already answered this bigoted response of yours. Try again.
    Bigoted? I'm sorry if you dislike the truth.

    You obviously don't work with UAW workers very often.
    People are people and behave as such. You can't provide any statistic that shows UAW workers are more angry or more lazy or anything else. Can you? Do you have a side by side comparison of the productivity of a UAW and no Union worker?

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