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    Re: GM goes bankrupt and gets nationalised

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I hated going to UAW plants. We are there, as guests of the company, working to sort parts to ensure that no mistakes get through, and the workers feel it is there job to treat us like crap because we are not in a union. Hell, we could not even use the nice bathroom, but had these trashy old ones to use for the nonunion visitors.
    At the Ford plants here in Louisville, you can't park on the property if you have a foreign car. They make you park at least 1/2 mile away. I have a Chevy and the person I was working for didn't think they would let me in, but they did. She warned me that it might get vandalized.

    At Toyota, they could care less what you are driving.

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    Re: GM goes bankrupt and gets nationalised

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    OK. Where you going with this? I am nonunion and have a forklift and crane license. I think I am missing something.
    sounds like you are not qualified because you are not union? just my guess.
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    Re: GM goes bankrupt and gets nationalised

    Just curious did any body around here own GM stock?

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    Re: GM goes bankrupt and gets nationalised

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    My sister relied on my mother to babysit thereby saving her HUGE amounts of money on childcare. My neighbor basically works to pay for the cost of childcare. There's one example.


    Well it's obvious that you really don't understand the value many people get out of their community. You also, like me, have the ability to pack up and move on to a better situation but many people have roots, best friends, family, church, whatever. My wife lived her entire life in N.CA. and it was VERY difficult for me to convince her to move 3000 miles from everyone she knows. It took 2 years before she started to feel comfortable here. I was in the military so, like you, I pulled up my roots long ago and it's been much easier for people like us to move around the country.
    If you need a job, and someone 2 or 3 states away offers you one, and you don't take it, you should lose all unemployment/welfare/food stamp benefits....
    What you do is MOVE, and associate with your NEW community. See? Your first community cannot afford to feed you forever. Comes a point that you have to DO something for yourself....and in this case it is called moving to a community with more jobs than employees....a community that needs YOU as much as you need it...
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    Re: GM goes bankrupt and gets nationalised

    My father was a democrat, union, machinist.....at first.
    He became a republican, union hating, machinist....

    That occurred when he became a shop steward. He saw the improper use of the power that unions have. He saw incompetent and/or lazy workers making the same wages he made. He saw the union leadership misusing union funds. He saw his union call a strike that ended up costing the membership their jobs for many months, and the little they gained in hourly wages would take them over 10 years to make up.

    HIS union used the power incorrectly, and failed miserably in its responsibility to its members.

    Unions were a good thing at first, it helped give the workers a better life and more say in their lives/jobs. But then it started abusing its power.
    The pendulum swings, and can't stop at a good spot, because there are too many selfish, greedy people who keep pushing it...
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    Re: GM goes bankrupt and gets nationalised

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    "Leveling the playing field" like this in no different that raising average class scores by making the test easier.
    Otherwise known as.....socialism.

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    Re: GM goes bankrupt and gets nationalised

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Otherwise known as.....socialism.
    We all know that is just not fair for some people to have more than others.

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    Re: GM goes bankrupt and gets nationalised

    Quote Originally Posted by Anima View Post
    If GM couldn't be a competitive force in today's automarket, let them collape fulling. There's no point in wasting tax-payer's money to keep this company limping along when there's plenty of other fine auto companies to choose from.
    Yeah, the Big Three, (Toyota, Honda, Nissan), and then there is Subaru, Mitsubishi,Mazda, Suzuki..
    We could learn from the Japanese....
    But did we ??
    And the Germans, and they are soon due for retiring hundreds of working men....its also 40 years for them...
    And lets, maybe for the first time ever, be fair about things.
    The UAW takes a hit, and the overpaid auto industry executives must also be censured..
    Our government has failed in not helping long ago.....the education of our young, as I see in these forums, is poor...
    The bottom line is....we all have failed....lets learn and work toward a new beginning for our industry and our nation....
    Forget the blame game - with mirrors, this does not work...it only wastes time....

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    Re: GM goes bankrupt and gets nationalised

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    My father was a democrat, union, machinist.....at first.
    He became a republican, union hating, machinist....

    That occurred when he became a shop steward. He saw the improper use of the power that unions have. He saw incompetent and/or lazy workers making the same wages he made. He saw the union leadership misusing union funds. He saw his union call a strike that ended up costing the membership their jobs for many months, and the little they gained in hourly wages would take them over 10 years to make up.

    HIS union used the power incorrectly, and failed miserably in its responsibility to its members.

    Unions were a good thing at first, it helped give the workers a better life and more say in their lives/jobs. But then it started abusing its power.
    The pendulum swings, and can't stop at a good spot, because there are too many selfish, greedy people who keep pushing it...
    I take it that the industry executives are not in this category ??
    Lets stop this childish blame game, and return to work (learning, studying)...
    If not, we can hand over the keys to our nation to the Chinese and Japanese...

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    Re: GM goes bankrupt and gets nationalised

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
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    Forget the blame game - with mirrors, this does not work...it only wastes time....
    I'm all for that, but everyone has to get on board . . . starting with the President.
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