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    Re: GM goes bankrupt and gets nationalised

    If GM couldn't be a competitive force in today's automarket, let them collape fulling. There's no point in wasting tax-payer's money to keep this company limping along when there's plenty of other fine auto companies to choose from.
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    Re: GM goes bankrupt and gets nationalised

    Quote Originally Posted by B L Zeebub View Post
    I dont unerstand your point?
    He cannot post without whining about President Obama. He is factually wrong as well, since no one is telling GM they have to sell anything in particular, but that they have to make cars more fuel efficient.

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    Re: GM goes bankrupt and gets nationalised

    the first part of the solution is national healthcare, the second is making a better product and the third is renegotiating with the unions

    American companies can't be competitive with foreign countries that have national healthcare. The model of employer provided health insurance only worked because the US was afforded so much prosperity after WII. It's not sustainable, and that's being illustrated clearly now.

    But it would also help if they stopped building ludicrous cars. 8 ton suburban assault vehicles might sell for a lot individually but they're far too easily affected by oil price fluctuations.
    And why does your tone suggest that you do not care about children?

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    Re: GM goes bankrupt and gets nationalised

    FYI Buick is the #2 seller in China.

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    Re: GM goes bankrupt and gets nationalised

    Quote Originally Posted by new coup for you View Post
    the first part of the solution is national healthcare, the second is making a better product and the third is renegotiating with the unions

    American companies can't be competitive with foreign countries that have national healthcare. The model of employer provided health insurance only worked because the US was afforded so much prosperity after WII. It's not sustainable, and that's being illustrated clearly now.
    Exactly. Nationalised health care requires only small contributions from every worker in the nation, while employer provided insurance not only means more expense for employers but leaves workers tied to jobs they may wish to leave for fear of losing coverage. The UK spends far less per person on healthcare than the US, but we spend it efficiently and can ficus our time and money on providing care as opposed to working in billing departments and going through the financial ramifications of every single tiny little treatment. Cut that useless beureacracy, and everyone benefits.

    And for anyone who's interested? A British worker on minimum wage contributes £24(around $50) to the NHS in the form of taxes per annum and receives a high standard of care - higher, in many instancs, than that which can be received in the US.
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    Re: GM goes bankrupt and gets nationalised

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    He cannot post without whining about President Obama. He is factually wrong as well, since no one is telling GM they have to sell anything in particular, but that they have to make cars more fuel efficient.
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    Re: GM goes bankrupt and gets nationalised

    Quote Originally Posted by Anima View Post
    Exactly. Nationalised health care requires only small contributions from every worker in the nation, while employer provided insurance not only means more expense for employers but leaves workers tied to jobs they may wish to leave for fear of losing coverage. The UK spends far less per person on healthcare than the US, but we spend it efficiently and can ficus our time and money on providing care as opposed to working in billing departments and going through the financial ramifications of every single tiny little treatment. Cut that useless beureacracy, and everyone benefits.

    And for anyone who's interested? A British worker on minimum wage contributes £24(around $50) to the NHS in the form of taxes per annum and receives a high standard of care - higher, in many instancs, than that which can be received in the US.
    Large companies realize this too, big auto are among the more vocal proponents of healthcare reform.
    And why does your tone suggest that you do not care about children?

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    Re: GM goes bankrupt and gets nationalised

    Someone please explain how this is legal?

    Nationalized health care isn't the answer. Ending the Federal Reserve and wasteful government spending is the answer. As long as they continue to devalue our currency. Health care costs will rise. The Federal Reserve is pricing Americans out of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. If you support national health care. You need to realize that national health care is not affordable if we keep our current foreign policy. It is not affordable if we continue subsidizing every industry in good times and bad. You cannot take all this wealth from Americans and expect them to thrive. Stop the theft and let the American people prosper.

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    Re: GM goes bankrupt and gets nationalised

    should have let the country folk take care of GM
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    Re: GM goes bankrupt and gets nationalised

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    They should let them die. They have failed.

    GM sold less for many reasons.

    The labor unions reducing profitability is one of them.
    Wrong. It's the lack of unionization by the ignorant southerners and foreign companies.

    I can not for the life of me understand the mentality that says 'I will fight to get paid less and accept fewer benefits than a union worker doing the same job.' So that CEOs and shareholders can make more money... baffling.

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