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    Re: GM goes bankrupt and gets nationalised

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Do share your views about these builders and how their case refutes what I have stated from PERSONAL experience.

    I have not heard of them but am all eyes to see what your argument is going to be.
    Some of my personal experience counters your personal experience. Great homes are built up north and crappy ones too just like down here in the south.

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    Re: GM goes bankrupt and gets nationalised

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I'd like to know how much did the unions give to try and stop this.
    I think they claimed they had given up way too much already and now have a partial ownership in the company; I am expecting this ownership to slap some reality into their heads and force them to make more concessions to avoid full liquidation.

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    Re: GM goes bankrupt and gets nationalised

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Some of my personal experience counters your personal experience. Great homes are built up north and crappy ones too just like down here in the south.
    I am not talking about houses; I am speaking of Commercial construction using the exact same specifications and requirements for BOTH instances.

    I see you also ignored the personal experience working IN the machinist Union as further evidence.

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    Re: GM goes bankrupt and gets nationalised

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    I think they claimed they had given up way too much already and now have a partial ownership in the company; I am expecting this ownership to slap some reality into their heads and force them to make more concessions to avoid full liquidation.
    So they got their members part ownership in a bankrupt company? They should have left business to business people. Good reason that unions shouldn't run companies.
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    Re: GM goes bankrupt and gets nationalised

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    So they got their members part ownership in a bankrupt company? They should have left business to business people. Good reason that unions shouldn't run companies.
    So...
    With the Governmet and thje union owning/running the compmany, who will the pro-union, pro-government people blame if GM continues to fail?

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    China?????
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    Re: GM goes bankrupt and gets nationalised

    They'll blame Republicans for blocking any way to send more tax funds to the company. Although, if the government owns it, can you really call it a company since it steals to get some of its revenue?

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    Re: GM goes bankrupt and gets nationalised

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Of course they can. It is America is it not? Do what Reagan did to the air controllers.. fire the bunch and hire others.

    Like it or not the management had no spine during the negotiations.. pure and simple. Not even in Europe do we have such idiotic labour costs (relatively speaking) put on companies when compared to the rest of the society.
    Yea but that isn't the fault of management, that would be the feds fault.

    Even then though I wouldn't the government to intervene.

    Management should of been focused on creating an innovative new line of products, plant efficiency, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    No one has yet to explain WHY American companies should lower their employment costs (wages and benefits) to compete with foreign companies who sell their products to Americans. I know you cons keep saying they should lower those costs but you haven't laid out why. I mean other than to increase corporate profits.
    Someone else is willing to do the same thing cheaper.

    That is how it works, people in places with a lesser cost of living naturally don't need as much money compared to people in places with higher costs of living.
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    Re: GM goes bankrupt and gets nationalised

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    I am not talking about houses; I am speaking of Commercial construction using the exact same specifications and requirements for BOTH instances.

    I see you also ignored the personal experience working IN the machinist Union as further evidence.
    LOL I guess you have never scene our crap strip mall down here. And your personal experience as a machnist really doesn' mean squat. My experience in a union counters yours? YAWN.

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    Re: GM goes bankrupt and gets nationalised

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    So...
    With the Governmet and thje union owning/running the compmany, who will the pro-union, pro-government people blame if GM continues to fail?
    Don't you know that by now Goobie? Why everything is George Bush's fault silly.

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