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    Re: Israel debates 'loyalty' law

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Can we get a source on this OTHER than Al-jazeera? I don't consider them exactly "objective".
    Well the first thing I saw in Aljazzera english was an interview with a Kurdish women who belived golden statues of George Bush and Tony Blair should be erected in Iraqi cities. If anything its probably one of the less biased stations out there. I did a search on google news for this story [expecting the envitable fuss RE Aljazzera] but the other storys that came up didnt go into a great deal of detail, though theres nothing stopping you from doing the same.

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    Re: Israel debates 'loyalty' law

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Somebody simply saying that Israel shouldn't exist is not grounds for imprisonment unless they take actions toward making that a reality.
    With this law it would be illegal and you would got to jail for 1 year at least. Problem is where does it stop? What is next? All Israeli-Palestinians need to wear a yellow crescent so they are easier to identify? Or are they just gonna kick them out?
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    Re: Israel debates 'loyalty' law

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Can we get a source on this OTHER than Al-jazeera? I don't consider them exactly "objective".
    I think that Al-Jazeera is quite objective. I watch it regularly in Arabic and they often invite Israeli politicians and intellectuals to express their opinions.
    This afternoon they had a long interview with the military expert of the Jerusalem Post.

    You can watch it in English and decide for yourself. I find it to be much more objective than Fox News.

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    Re: Israel debates 'loyalty' law

    I believe this is an ultimate attempt to criminalize Hamas once and for all. This will create the environment for Israel to negotiate a peace settlement while going after Hamas. This gives them the out for recognizing Hamas's legitmacy as an elected party.

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    Re: Israel debates 'loyalty' law

    Quote Originally Posted by Triad View Post
    al Jazeera wrote a negative article about Jews

    Ignoring the nefarious demonizing by the Jew lovers who wrote the article.......


    If you advocate publicly the overthrow or destruction of the United States in the USA you will be arrested as well.
    Hell if you deny the 6 million Jews/or 8 million 'others' got gassed in WWII you'll be arrested in Europe.

    What this is is a Jew hating publication trying to demonize Jews by removing common sense from readers minds so they will accept and demonize nefarious malicious and evil JEWS!
    Der Sturmer was alot more honest.
    Leaving the slander aside for a minute you can argue against a states existence without calling for its armed overthrow. Otherwise http://www.debatepolitics.com/immigr...-solution.html Would be illegal. As would Anarcism Trotskyism etc.

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    Re: Israel debates 'loyalty' law

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    I believe this is an ultimate attempt to criminalize Hamas once and for all. This will create the environment for Israel to negotiate a peace settlement while going after Hamas. This gives them the out for recognizing Hamas's legitmacy as an elected party.
    Just a shame they have to criminalise the commemoration of Nakba Day in the process.
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    Re: Israel debates 'loyalty' law

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    Just a shame they have to criminalise the commemoration of Nakba Day in the process.
    Just horrible.

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    Re: Israel debates 'loyalty' law

    Quote Originally Posted by Mira View Post
    I think that Al-Jazeera is quite objective. I watch it regularly in Arabic and they often invite Israeli politicians and intellectuals to express their opinions.
    This afternoon they had a long interview with the military expert of the Jerusalem Post.

    You can watch it in English and decide for yourself. I find it to be much more objective than Fox News.

    Just my 2 Shekels.
    Christ the head of the Al-Jazeera Beirut office praised Samir Kuntar as a "pan-Arab hero".

    FYI Kuntar crushed the skull of an Israeli 4 year old girl with his rifle butt.

    "Objective" indeed.
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    Re: Israel debates 'loyalty' law

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    Al Jazeera English - Middle East - Israel debates 'loyalty' law

    Looks to me like a way to stifle perfectly legitimate dissent considering

    [A] a one state solution has alot of good arguments going for it but by arguing for such a solution you are arguing against the existence of Israel as a Jewish state

    [B] The establishment of Isreal was, undeniably a disaster for the Arabs

    But as Voltaire once said it is dangerous to be right when those in power are so very wrong
    The actions of Palestinians result in my lack of empathy over this.

    I might have an issue with such a loyalty law, but when you go around bombing school buses and decapitating people...well I just don't feel anything for you.

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    Re: Israel debates 'loyalty' law

    Quote Originally Posted by Mira View Post
    You can watch it in English and decide for yourself. I find it to be much more objective than Fox News.
    A source is declared objective by how much it suits your bias.
    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    With this law it would be illegal and you would got to jail for 1 year at least. Problem is where does it stop? What is next? All Israeli-Palestinians need to wear a yellow crescent so they are easier to identify? Or are they just gonna kick them out?
    What? Are you crazy? What do you think we are, Europeans?

    And by the way, that law didn't even pass the first vote in the Knesset yesterday, so it's finished.
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