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    Re: Horrifying Details Emerge in Hearing on Virginia Tech Murder

    Could've, should've, would've. Fact is, you weren't there. I've come around to the pro-gun argument but this is a bad example for the pro-gun crowd. It's not something that could've been avoided. If the campus had a pro-gun policy, then the killer would have lured her somewhere else to do the deed.

    Any age is too young to know what to do in this situation, but we're looking at a room with a bunch of 21 year olds and under, most of whom went straight from living with their parents to a college dorm. Expecting them to rush and jump onto the killer when they haven't seen anything like this in their life is a huge expectation, and frankly really apathetic to how bystanders must have felt.

    And finally... I respect a college's decision to ban guns on campus. It's their private property so they can do what they want. After the various campuses I worked, studied, and lived at, I would never want to see guns part of the equation. Most of the off hours are spent getting hammered and chasing tail, not to mention the trivial drunk fights that break out between people. Let's throw guns into an immature situation, that'll help!

    Campuses have a thing called security which can be called in an instant, but like RightinNYC said, there was no avoiding this outcome.

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    Re: Horrifying Details Emerge in Hearing on Virginia Tech Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    Could've, should've, would've. Fact is, you weren't there.
    Fact is, you don't know me. Although her stabbing was not preventable, the decapitation probably was. Watch any beheading video. I reluctantly agree however, that those present were most likely ill-suited to respond instinctively.

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    Re: Horrifying Details Emerge in Hearing on Virginia Tech Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    Fact is, you don't know me. Although her stabbing was not preventable, the decapitation probably was. Watch any beheading video. I reluctantly agree however, that those present were most likely ill-suited to respond instinctively.
    I know enough about you to know that you have training, so obviously if you were there, you would have done something.

    Notice how I'm not commenting on what I would have done, but am instead thinking about why no one reacted to save the woman. What's done is done.

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    Re: Horrifying Details Emerge in Hearing on Virginia Tech Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    Fact is, you don't know me. Although her stabbing was not preventable, the decapitation probably was. Watch any beheading video. I reluctantly agree however, that those present were most likely ill-suited to respond instinctively.
    Glad I read to the end of the thread before replying to your previous post. You are an exceptional person. To suggest that because you would have probably successfully stopped this, that those who did not are cowards is...well, it's not your best moment.

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    Re: Horrifying Details Emerge in Hearing on Virginia Tech Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Glad I read to the end of the thread before replying to your previous post. You are an exceptional person. To suggest that because you would have probably successfully stopped this, that those who did not are cowards is...well, it's not your best moment.
    My bad Redress. Sometimes I forget the setting. This decapitation could not have occurred in Israel in a similar scenario. He would have been shot at the first sign of such an intent.

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    Re: Horrifying Details Emerge in Hearing on Virginia Tech Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    My bad Redress. Sometimes I forget the setting. This decapitation could not have occurred in Israel in a similar scenario. He would have been shot at the first sign of such an intent.
    I have been to Israel, and I am sure you are right. Do not take this wrong, but I hope we never end up like Israel though.

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    Re: Horrifying Details Emerge in Hearing on Virginia Tech Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    Could've, should've, would've. Fact is, you weren't there. I've come around to the pro-gun argument but this is a bad example for the pro-gun crowd. It's not something that could've been avoided. If the campus had a pro-gun policy, then the killer would have lured her somewhere else to do the deed.

    Any age is too young to know what to do in this situation, but we're looking at a room with a bunch of 21 year olds and under, most of whom went straight from living with their parents to a college dorm. Expecting them to rush and jump onto the killer when they haven't seen anything like this in their life is a huge expectation, and frankly really apathetic to how bystanders must have felt.

    And finally... I respect a college's decision to ban guns on campus. It's their private property so they can do what they want. After the various campuses I worked, studied, and lived at, I would never want to see guns part of the equation. Most of the off hours are spent getting hammered and chasing tail, not to mention the trivial drunk fights that break out between people. Let's throw guns into an immature situation, that'll help!

    Campuses have a thing called security which can be called in an instant, but like RightinNYC said, there was no avoiding this outcome.
    Many college campuses are publicly funded, so it's not really private property.

    Anyway, I will state once again, with renewed emphasis, that these people acted like cowards. Make any excuse you like but everyone knows how to fight. Pick up a chair, pick up a fork, use anything at your disposal, but do something; a woman is getting her ****ing head sawed off. I don't think this kind of thing could have happened in the "old days". Something tells me neither one of my grandfathers would have watched this happen. This is just a microcosm amongst American youth. Soft and self-centered.

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    Re: Horrifying Details Emerge in Hearing on Virginia Tech Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I have been to Israel, and I am sure you are right. Do not take this wrong, but I hope we never end up like Israel though.
    You do what you have to do to survive. I personally have no problem with an armed and trained citizenry. Violent crime in Israel is exceedingly low.

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    Re: Horrifying Details Emerge in Hearing on Virginia Tech Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    You do what you have to do to survive. I personally have no problem with an armed and trained citizenry. Violent crime in Israel is exceedingly low.
    That is my point I guess. You do what you have to do, and I hope we never have to do what you all have to. I have never before been to a place where armed military people walk the streets till I went to Haifa.

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    Re: Horrifying Details Emerge in Hearing on Virginia Tech Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Many college campuses are publicly funded, so it's not really private property.

    Anyway, I will state once again, with renewed emphasis, that these people acted like cowards. Make any excuse you like but everyone knows how to fight. Pick up a chair, pick up a fork, use anything at your disposal, but do something; a woman is getting her ****ing head sawed off. I don't think this kind of thing could have happened in the "old days". Something tells me neither one of my grandfathers would have watched this happen. This is just a microcosm amongst American youth. Soft and self-centered.
    I'm sorry, but I think this is just another case of the "good old days." Truth of the matter is that most people are pussies and will not do things that place themselves in serious danger in order to help others. I'm sure that everyone on DP would have immediately jumped into action, disarmed the attacker, tended to the victim's wounds, and then decapitated and crucified the attacker (to show we mean business!), but in the real world, most people are just going to be concerned about themselves, regardless of age or whether they "have testicles."
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