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    Re: Horrifying Details Emerge in Hearing on Virginia Tech Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by stevenb View Post
    Considering your responses about college students owning guns.. don't blame me if I call you and your friends idiots.
    Do you have any responses not based on irrational emotions?

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    Re: Horrifying Details Emerge in Hearing on Virginia Tech Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Do you have any responses not based on irrational emotions?
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    George Washington didn't use his freedom of speech to win the war with Britain... He shot them.

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    Re: Horrifying Details Emerge in Hearing on Virginia Tech Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    They forbid guns on campus, even for those with carry permits. Works wonderfully doesn't it?




    Boy, it sure is great that there were no lawfully-carried, privately owned firearms present, since the presence of guns always makes things worse.

    (/irony)

    Apparently there were no testicles present, either.

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    Federal weapons permits trump the school.

    Also ... it's sad that nobody had the balls to stop the guy before he beheaded the victim.

    Based on the news report, Zhu, after his arrest, spoke of the victim in the present tense. This is a sign that Zhu is delusional. In his mind, the victim, Yin, is still alive.

    I would say a mental fitness exam should be administered.

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    Re: Horrifying Details Emerge in Hearing on Virginia Tech Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Do you have any responses not based on irrational emotions?
    Time Line of Worldwide School Shootings — Infoplease.com



    btw, seems like there are quite a few more than three school shootings that have happened in the last 10 or so years.

    Those gun free zones are really helping.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0vyxgJLJVA[/ame]
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    Re: Horrifying Details Emerge in Hearing on Virginia Tech Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Federal weapons permits trump the school.

    Also ... it's sad that nobody had the balls to stop the guy before he beheaded the victim.

    Based on the news report, Zhu, after his arrest, spoke of the victim in the present tense. This is a sign that Zhu is delusional. In his mind, the victim, Yin, is still alive.

    I would say a mental fitness exam should be administered.
    According to the article one was administered and he was found competent to stand trial.
    George Washington didn't use his freedom of speech to win the war with Britain... He shot them.

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    Re: Horrifying Details Emerge in Hearing on Virginia Tech Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Do you have any responses not based on irrational emotions?
    Do you have anything to offer but your opinion?


    I've backed up my position with tons of facts, links, stats, sources and data supporting my stance.

    You have presented nothing but your opinion.

    By any rational standards you lost the debate pages ago.

    What you have left is apparently nothing more than, "Is not!"

    Well then.



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    Re: Horrifying Details Emerge in Hearing on Virginia Tech Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Do you have anything to offer but your opinion?


    I've backed up my position with tons of facts, links, stats, sources and data supporting my stance.

    You have presented nothing but your opinion.

    By any rational standards you lost the debate pages ago.

    What you have left is apparently nothing more than, "Is not!"

    Well then.



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    My opinion is that these events are so rare that changing policy based on them is foolish. I backed this up with statistics showing that the most recent year with data available, no one, not a single person, was murdered on college campuses.

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    Re: Horrifying Details Emerge in Hearing on Virginia Tech Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    My opinion is that these events are so rare that changing policy based on them is foolish. I backed this up with statistics showing that the most recent year with data available, no one, not a single person, was murdered on college campuses.
    Possibly you've noticed there have, indeed, been quite a few people murdered on campus the past couple of years, regardless of what year you had stats for.

    The issue isn't how rare it is, the issue is that it does happen, and people with carry permits are being deprived of the most effective means to defend themselves and others from such attacks.

    Not just in schools, but in all other victim-disarmament zones, where clearly most of these mass killings occur.

    The Second Amendment, "to keep and bear"....its not just a good idea, its the law.

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    Re: Horrifying Details Emerge in Hearing on Virginia Tech Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Possibly you've noticed there have, indeed, been quite a few people murdered on campus the past couple of years, regardless of what year you had stats for.

    The issue isn't how rare it is, the issue is that it does happen, and people with carry permits are being deprived of the most effective means to defend themselves and others from such attacks.

    Not just in schools, but in all other victim-disarmament zones, where clearly most of these mass killings occur.

    The Second Amendment, "to keep and bear"....its not just a good idea, its the law.
    Actually, the issue to me exactly is how rare is it. If i is as rare as I suspect, and the best data indicates, then using an exceedingly rare event to try and shape policy is silly. Should we change how we do things every single time some one dies?

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    Re: Horrifying Details Emerge in Hearing on Virginia Tech Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Actually, the issue to me exactly is how rare is it. If i is as rare as I suspect, and the best data indicates, then using an exceedingly rare event to try and shape policy is silly. Should we change how we do things every single time some one dies?
    We should obey the law first.

    The law says the right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed.

    A rinky-dink state college banning the carrying of guns on campus is an infringement on the Second Amendment.

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