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EXCLUSIVE: Career lawyers overruled on voting case; Black Panthers had wielded weapon

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celticlord said:
I am not going to speak for anyone but myself here, but I am not asking where are the liberals to defend either the Black Panther thugs or Holder's decision to let them go with a light wrist slap. I am asking where are the liberals to be outraged by all of this.

The sad reality of this particular topic is that the liberal voices have been stunningly silent across more than one thread (with the exception of a certain passionate apologist for Dear Leader). That silence, and Dear Leader's silence, is far more disturbing than the Department of Justice's wrong-headed decision to just drop the matter.

No, sir, I do not ask liberals to defend this. I ask them to be outraged by this, and to be doubly outraged by the refusal of the Attorney General to bring these thugs to heel.
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I am not outraged by this, but I think it is an injustice, and it was clearly the wrong decision!! I am far more outraged by other things, but this is certainly bad!!
 
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Frodly said:
I am not outraged by this, but I think it is an injustice, and it was clearly the wrong decision!! I am far more outraged by other things, but this is certainly bad!!
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I would prefer your outrage, but I will gladly take your opprobrium. As you say....what matters is that it is wrong, and it is wrong that these men intimidated voters without consequence to them.
 
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Frodly said:
I am not outraged by this, but I think it is an injustice, and it was clearly the wrong decision!! I am far more outraged by other things, but this is certainly bad!!
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You're not outraged by thugs using threats of violence to suppress the vote.

Would you feel differently if it was white thugs supporting McCain instead of your Messiah?

We can all remember the false outrage the left exhibited upon hearing the phony reports of voter suppression of blacks in Miami when Al Gore tried to steal the White House. Why are the people on the left acting differently now? (a completely rhetorical question, leftists are racists).
 
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Laila said:
I just googled black panther, and from what i've scanned it seems to be some crazy black supremacists group i'm assuming. Correct me if i'm wrong btw ...



Why aren't they in jail? Is threatening and imtimidation now acceptable?
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Yes, except for white men. Everyone else may act a fool with government sanction.
 
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Caine said:
Why that is must have something to do with the politically correct view of blacks as some poor oppressed group of individuals who have just reasons for doing these sorts of things and thus get ignored.
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So history of being the 'opressed' gives some a get out of jail free card?
In that case i hope the Native Americans can get away with murder in US
Seems ridiculous to me but what do i know.

talloulou said:
Yes, except for white men. Everyone else may act a fool with government sanction.
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Sounds like racism to me and is unfair. Well judge screwed up this time.
 
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Laila said:
So history of being the 'opressed' gives some a get out of jail free card?
In that case i hope the Native Americans can get away with murder in US
Seems ridiculous to me but what do i know.



Sounds like racism to me and is unfair. Well judge screwed up this time.
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Don't misunderstand. Right now among a certain group of people there is a huge backlash against having a black man dare to be president, and this group of people seem to see everything positive said or done in regards to a minority as somehow reverse racism or whatever.

This case, as best I can tell from the information available looks to have been handled poorly, but this idea that minorities can get away with anything under President Obama or that the way to get ahead in President Obama's white house is to hate white people(Rush Limbaugh quote) is just sour grapes by some white folks.

If you where black, and living in this country, as a general rule you are still worse off than white folks.
 
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Scarecrow Akhbar said:
You're not outraged by thugs using threats of violence to suppress the vote.

Would you feel differently if it was white thugs supporting McCain instead of your Messiah?

We can all remember the false outrage the left exhibited upon hearing the phony reports of voter suppression of blacks in Miami when Al Gore tried to steal the White House. Why are the people on the left acting differently now? (a completely rhetorical question, leftists are racists).
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No, I would feel no differently!! This is a miscarriage of justice, but that happens every day, and I need to prioritize my outrage!! I save it for more important things, than a few morons acting like morons. I wonder how you cons get through the day??? How do you have time for life, when you are so busy being outraged over everything!?!?!?!? I save my outrage for far more serious problems, like both parties being complicit in giving a few trillion tax payer dollars to rich corporations who were the ones who ****ed the economy up in the first place!!
 
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celticlord said:
I would prefer your outrage, but I will gladly take your opprobrium. As you say....what matters is that it is wrong, and it is wrong that these men intimidated voters without consequence to them.
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I apologize sincerely that my level of outrage does not meet your expectations, but I have things to do. I don't have time to be outraged over every injustice which takes place. I only have so much outrage to go around!!
 
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Redress said:
Don't misunderstand. Right now among a certain group of people there is a huge backlash against having a black man dare to be president, and this group of people seem to see everything positive said or done in regards to a minority as somehow reverse racism or whatever.
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meh, can't be that huge as Obama got elected. I think there's a huge backlash against double standards, affirmative action, and all other such nonsense and rightly so and I think all that came before Obama. People are just happier to bitch about it now freely as the fact that our President is black puts a rest to all such, "we're a racist racist nation" claims that previously silenced rational dissent.

If you where black, and living in this country, as a general rule you are still worse off than white folks.
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If you're poor you're screwed no matter what color you are. If you're born into a home with sufficient money, decent parents, in a solid neighborhood you'll likely be fine no matter what color you happen to be.
 
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Redress said:
Don't misunderstand. Right now among a certain group of people there is a huge backlash against having a black man dare to be president,
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Not relevant in this case.

I see you're defending the vote suppressing racists.

Redress said:
This case, as best I can tell from the information available looks to have been handled poorly, but this idea that minorities can get away with anything under President Obama or that the way to get ahead in President Obama's white house is to hate white people(Rush Limbaugh quote) is just sour grapes by some white folks.
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No, it's just a recognition of how the racists that dominate the mainstream media and the Democrat party operate.

Or are you going to try to deny that if Robert KKK Byrd was a Republican he'd have been allowed to stay in office and talk about "white niggers" on national TV without persistent demands for his resignation?

Redress said:
If you where black, and living in this country, as a general rule you are still worse off than white folks.
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If someone is black living in the United States and their economic position is worse than the median, then they need to get off their dead asses and work to improve their lives, not sit around whining about how "whitey" ain't treating them right.


All I'm really seeing in your post is that if anyone dares object to reverse racism, they're nothing but bigots that hate The Messiah.
 
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talloulou said:
meh, can't be that huge as Obama got elected. I think there's a huge backlash against double standards, affirmative action, and all other such nonsense and rightly so and I think all that came before Obama. People are just happier to bitch about it now freely as the fact that our President is black puts a rest to all such, "we're a racist racist nation" claims that previously silenced rational dissent.
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Maybe I was not clear. The backlash has been since he was elected.



If you're poor you're screwed no matter what color you are. If you're born into a home with sufficient money, decent parents, in a solid neighborhood you'll likely be fine no matter what color you happen to be.
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This is mostly true, though I would suspect that the black in a decent home would have a slightly harder time than a white, due to societal attitudes. Thankfully though, we are a lot better than we used to be in that regards.
 
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Frodly said:
I apologize sincerely that my level of outrage does not meet your expectations, but I have things to do. I don't have time to be outraged over every injustice which takes place. I only have so much outrage to go around!!
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That's okay. Being from California, where we're under a constant barrage of "conserve everything but taxpayer dollars", I understand where you're coming from. You have a limited supply of outrage, so you're not going to waste a drop of it on a government action that endorses the suppression of the white vote by black gangster. No, you're going to hang onto your outrage until something serious happens, like when white firemen refuse to rescue a black kitten in a tree.

Not worry, many of us understand you completely.
 
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Redress said:
Maybe I was not clear. The backlash has been since he was elected.
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Gimme a break. People would be just as upset about Pink Panther freaks wielding sticks outside a polling place and the courts poo pooing it away under any President. It's just now they'll voice it because at a certain point, "You racist!" looses it's effect in a country with an African American POTUS.

This is mostly true, though I would suspect that the black in a decent home would have a slightly harder time than a white, due to societal attitudes. Thankfully though, we are a lot better than we used to be in that regards.
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This is a pile of b.s. and I'd be offended if I were black to hear such dribbling nonsense.
 
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talloulou said:
Gimme a break. People would be just as upset about Pink Panther freaks wielding sticks outside a polling place and the courts poo pooing it away under any President. It's just now they'll voice it because at a certain point, "You racist!" looses it's effect in a country with an African American POTUS.
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Better go back and look again. I agree with you on this case. I also added that alot of the outrage is a backlash to a black president. I also offered solid examples(Rush saying that to get ahead in the Obama white house you have to hate whites).

This is a pile of b.s. and I'd be offended if I were black to hear such dribbling nonsense.
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You don't think so? You don't think that there are not people who see black kids and think "criminal"? You don't think that this is more common than people seeing white kids and thinking "criminal"? I think both are much rarer than it used to be, but I don't think it is entirely eliminated.
 
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Scarecrow Akhbar said:
That's okay. Being from California, where we're under a constant barrage of "conserve everything but taxpayer dollars", I understand where you're coming from. You have a limited supply of outrage, so you're not going to waste a drop of it on a government action that endorses the suppression of the white vote by black gangster. No, you're going to hang onto your outrage until something serious happens, like when white firemen refuse to rescue a black kitten in a tree.

Not worry, many of us understand you completely.
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You're being unfair. I understand where he is coming from. As with most of us, he applies outrage to those harms he deems greatest. I do wish voter intimidation were higher ranked in his list of offenses, but I do at least respect him for not engaging in the apologetic contortions some do on this matter. He says it is wrong, but he wishes to devote his energies elsewhere. I have not read him justifying and rationalizing the matter away; I disagree with his prioritizations but I happily give him that much commendation.
 
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celticlord said:
You're being unfair. I understand where he is coming from. As with most of us, he applies outrage to those harms he deems greatest.
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That's what I said.
 
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Frodly said:
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No, I would feel no differently!! This is a miscarriage of justice, but that happens every day, and I need to prioritize my outrage!! I save it for more important things, than a few morons acting like morons.
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It's not the fact that morons are being their natural selfs. One has to expect that.

The point of outrage should be: Why did The Messiah appoint a moron to be AG?
 
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Redress said:
You don't think so? You don't think that there are not people who see black kids and think "criminal"? You don't think that this is more common than people seeing white kids and thinking "criminal"? I think both are much rarer than it used to be, but I don't think it is entirely eliminated.
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I think there are folks who think every black person in America should be taught to embrace an itchy robe of victimhood from birth. It's frankly condescending.
 
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do they have to be itchy?
 
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talloulou said:
I think there are folks who think every black person in America should be taught to embrace an itchy robe of victimhood from birth. It's frankly condescending.
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I don't disagree, but this has nothing to do with the point I was making.
 
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Scarecrow Akhbar said:
do they have to be itchy?
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Yes, because scratchy is reserved for the Klan robes.
 
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Guys, I am trying to eat, stop making me laugh.
 
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Frodly said:
The problem with this, is it, like everything else political in this country, will become a partisan issue. This should never be a partisan issue. It should be about justice!! These morons should be in jail, and it is an embarrassment to this country that they are not.


But of course I come in this thread, and it is full of nonsensical partisan sniping. "where are the liberals to defend this?" Why would I defend this? There are some partisan hacks on the democratic side, who will defend every action democrats take. Just like there are conservatives who still try to say George Bush was not a disastrous president, or that invading Iraq was a good idea, or any other number of things which the evidence says the exact opposite!! But for all people who are not partisan hacks, there is no reason to defend this!!

So why can't things be about right and wrong? Or in this case just or unjust? Instead everything is "ooh look what stupid thing this conservative did, aren't all republicans evil fascists?" Or the opposite "ooh look what stupid thing this liberal did, aren't all democrats evil communists?" I suppose that is just the way things go.... :(
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Frod,

This is about right and wrong.
That is what Conservatives tend to look at; right & wrong, and what is the greatest good for the greatest number over the long haul. Not emotion.

The reason I kept bringing the thread up, and there were comments about lefty's not commenting is because they ignored the thread. We wanted to hear what some folks had to say from Obama's side.

We have.

As for Bush, yes some believe he did the right things considering the circumstances, the hostility of our opponents and the facts from all the intel services around the world.

War isn't a game of perfect, far from it, and Saddam was left to fester far too long.

Though Conservatives didn't crap on Bush about Iraq, or turn on the troops, we surely did not appreciate his spending. We didn't like Amnesty. We were vocal, so vocal Amnesty was actually nuked. I don' think you can lecture Conservatives about not speaking up when we disagreed with Bush 43; we have.

Your party is the one that defends perjurers, and voted for wars out of political expediency, only to turn your backs on the troops when they needed our total support the most.

"Support the troops but not the mission"?
Bulls**t.

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Voter intimidation is WRONG WRONG WRONG regardless of who is doing it. These guys should have the book thrown at them and anyone associated with fools like that should be ashamed of themselves. :thumbdown
 
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I'm not going to defend the black panthers on this at all because they should not have been at the polling place with a weapon. The outfits, free country.

As to intimidating voters... Do you think it was to turn away white voters?

I think the idea was for them to prevent the usual suspects from intimidating black voters. Their presence ensures that black folks don't have to fear going to the polls and being arrested or harassed.

These guys went too far and should be prosecuted. However, the justice department has a lot of important cases to deal with and apparently this was a civil suit. If they actually broke the law, not just as a perceived threat by some, then they should absolutely be prosecuted by the local court system. Why was this being pushed to the US justice department?

As an aside, hey paranoid guy who takes his gun to the polls, would you have brandished it or even used it on these guys if this was your polling place?
 
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