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    Re: "US violated Geneva Conventions" - Gen Petraeus

    Quote Originally Posted by Inferno View Post
    Maybe if the Nazi troops and generals had the balls to speak up instead of following half assed leaders a few less Jews would have been killed. Hmmmm did you think of that.
    So you wish to compare our actions to Nazi's; that is absurd.

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    Re: "US violated Geneva Conventions" - Gen Petraeus

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    How can a world leader like the U.S. abandon it's commitment to human rights and use series of legal arguments to try and mask the barbarity it perpetrated on it's prisoners?
    This is a false and farcical argument. The US hasn't abandoned its commitment to human rights and this is more bumper sticker rhetoric than anything remotely considered substantive or factual.

    Calling our treatment of these detainees barbaric is laughable and makes light of what barbaric treatment truly is.

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    Re: "US violated Geneva Conventions" - Gen Petraeus

    Quote Originally Posted by Inferno View Post
    I think if the Iran Military started waterboarding American civilians, the right would be screaming for blood. You bet your ass it would be wrong then.
    Of course these would be American civilians conducting terrorist activities right?

    Do you see the absurdity of your nonsensical arguments?

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    Re: "US violated Geneva Conventions" - Gen Petraeus

    Quote Originally Posted by Inferno View Post
    Petraeus seem to think we did violate the convention. I would go with his expertise before I would think you were correct. I tend to side that he is correct. so would you be pissed if they were torturing US civilians in the name of the war on terror?
    Have you read the conventions?

    Here's a link....read them and become more informed rather than going on highly emotional uninformed rants:

    Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War

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    Re: "US violated Geneva Conventions" - Gen Petraeus

    Quote Originally Posted by Inferno View Post
    I think that he has lied about his Iraq policy. I have no problem with them calling him out on bull**** that is being done worng.
    You THINK Bush lied, but there is NOTHING, I repeat NADA, to support what you THINK.

    But then again, why let FACTS get in the way of your obvious closed minded hyper partisan point of view right?

    And with this false emotion, you think that is also okay to argue falsely that Bush defied the Geneva Convention, which you haven't and wont read, and has committed war crimes and should be tried on the simple fact that you don't like him.

    This sounds not only closed minded, but fascist. Shall we start criminalizing the political process from now on every time the OTHER party wins elections?

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    Re: "US violated Geneva Conventions" - Gen Petraeus

    Quote Originally Posted by goldendog View Post
    You mean many innocent people who were scooped up and wisked away and tortured and raped in order to gain false intelligence supports Cheney's dream of a Saddam/9-11 connection? Which has never been proven.

    Bush and Cheney screw up by letting their guard down and being totally, most likely willingly, asleep when we were attacked on 9-11 and others, many innocent, get tortured for it.

    Crap that is sick and crazy.
    We're going to need waders for the cast amount of BS you continue to spew in here; innocent people whisked away and tortured and raped to obtain false intelligence? This is beyond absurd but rather borders on the insane.

    You are indeed the poster child for Liberal group think.

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    Re: "US violated Geneva Conventions" - Gen Petraeus

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    And who decides these people don't apply to the geneva convention?

    Because there are people of intelligence that say they should apply and there are people of intelligence that say the shouldn't apply.

    Let the lawyers fight it out, which is exactly what might happen.
    You are kidding us right? Read the conventions; they are rather self explanatory, unless of course you are a hyper partisan trying to impugn those you disagree with for purely partisan political purposes.

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    Re: "US violated Geneva Conventions" - Gen Petraeus

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    I think the issue here however is twofold:
    • The manner in which these prisoners were classified. There are terrible discrepancies there.
    • Why did our government ever make the argument for denying them protections under the Geneva Convention in the first place?


    The only real reason the Bush administration made the arguments was to facilitate military tribunals and torture.
    Your comments, other than being patently and typically offensive are pure hyperbole and speculation.

    But then, as most of your arguments go, who needs facts when you can use a bumper sticker or fabricate your own version of reality, right?

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    Re: "US violated Geneva Conventions" - Gen Petraeus

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    We're going to need waders for the cast amount of BS you continue to spew in here; innocent people whisked away and tortured and raped to obtain false intelligence? This is beyond absurd but rather borders on the insane.

    You are indeed the poster child for Liberal group think.
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSw-B5Iq8tE]YouTube - WH Torture Program's Purpose: To Find A Justification For War In Iraq Before War Began Pt 2 of 2[/ame]


    TD I tried to find a link that supports your position...but they don't exist.

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    Re: "US violated Geneva Conventions" - Gen Petraeus

    General Petraeus also said that the recent attacks on targets in Pakistan that killed civilians was a big problem trying to win hearts. But I guess that would implicate President Obama so let's not bring it up.

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