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    Re: "US violated Geneva Conventions" - Gen Petraeus

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Except one little item I would like to point out not one General Resolution that the UN has passed has been approved by the United States Congress so hence the United States along with China,Russia,France and few other Countrys don't follow 43/173.
    Oh, so we don't honor U.N. resolutions? That's what you're saying?
    *insert profound statement here*

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    Re: "US violated Geneva Conventions" - Gen Petraeus

    Quote Originally Posted by OutoftheBox View Post
    This is very compelling. This came from Gen Petraeus today.


    Raw Story US violated Geneva Conventions, Bush Iraq commander says

    US violated Geneva Conventions, Bush Iraq commander says


    By John Byrne

    Published: May 29, 2009


    The head of the US Central Command, General David Petraeus, said Friday that the US had violated the Geneva Conventions in a stunning admission from President Bush’s onetime top general in Iraq that the US may have violated international law.

    “When we have taken steps that have violated the Geneva Conventions we rightly have been criticized, so as we move forward I think it’s important to again live our values, to live the agreements that we have made in the international justice arena and to practice those,” Gen. Petraeus said on Fox News Friday afternoon.
    Yes some of our soldiers have violated the Geneva Conventions IE Abu Ghraib scandal etc. How is this news? Wait what ever happened to General Betrayus? Oh now the treasonous left thinks they can have some use for him. Sickening.

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    Re: "US violated Geneva Conventions" - Gen Petraeus

    Quote Originally Posted by goldendog View Post
    Well the Republicans have always claimed that Petreaus is a smart and wise general...now he is proving them right.
    And the left has referred to him as General Betrayus and called him a failure before he had even begun and now that they think they can use him they switch there stories. Disgusting.

    FYI this isn't news we all know that there are soldiers who have violated the Geneva Conventions eg the murder and rape of that Iraqi girl and the scandal at Abu Ghraib. Nobody ever denied that these were GC violations.

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    Re: "US violated Geneva Conventions" - Gen Petraeus

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    The only problem I have with this is that the Geneva conventions only apply to uniformed solders representing a government. Or at least that is what I have been lead to believe all these years.

    Terrorists do not have the protection of the Geneva Convention. So why is the general trying to say we did?
    All civilians are protected by the Geneva Conventions. Petrayus didn't say how we violated the Geneva Conventions he just said that we have, and we have IE when those soldiers raped and killed that little Iraqi girl. Moreover, all detainees are entitled to the protections of Common Article 3 which was clearly violated at Abu Ghraib.

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    Re: "US violated Geneva Conventions" - Gen Petraeus

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Funny how the supporters of the Iraq war claim that it is a legal war and then say the enemies we capture are not prisoners of war and subject to the protections of the GC. That's like saying you're a murderer but then the people you kill are not victims and shouldn't be counted in your trial. I love it when people play with words.
    Funny how the anti-war people don't have the slightest clue as to who is and who is not considered a lawful combatant protected by the Geneva Conventions and entitled to POW status.

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    Re: "US violated Geneva Conventions" - Gen Petraeus

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    How can one violate the Geneva Concentions when the Geneva Conventions don't apply to the people in question?
    Common Article 3 applies as per the Hamdan decision of the SCOTUS even though it's an asinine interpretation of "not of an international character".
    Last edited by Agent Ferris; 05-31-09 at 11:56 PM.

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    Re: "US violated Geneva Conventions" - Gen Petraeus

    Quote Originally Posted by Inferno View Post
    I think if the Iran Military started waterboarding American civilians, the right would be screaming for blood. You bet your ass it would be wrong then.
    If the Iranians captured an undercover CIA operative who had infiltrated into Iranian territory and started conducting Clandestine activities not only would they have the right to engage in coercive interrogation techniques but they would have the right to execute them as well.

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    Re: "US violated Geneva Conventions" - Gen Petraeus

    Quote Originally Posted by goldendog View Post
    Does that mean there were no violations? You seem to be avoiding answering this question directly. When exactly was Petraeus asked that specific question.
    Common Article 3 was clearly violated at Abu Ghraib hence the fact that those responsible were tried, convicted, and sentenced to prison where they belong.

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    Re: "US violated Geneva Conventions" - Gen Petraeus

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    Don't forget Principle 6.
    General Assembly resolutions are non-binding towards member states they are only binding when they involve the internal workings of the General Assembly.

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    Re: "US violated Geneva Conventions" - Gen Petraeus

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    Oh, so we don't honor U.N. resolutions? That's what you're saying?
    General Assembly resolutions aren't worth the paper they're printed on, they are all non-binding and do not have the force of international law.

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