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    Re: Levin: Memos don't show what Cheney says they do

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So, for those people in the rest of the world, and some here in the US, when they think of the US and torture, they think of the images from Abu Ghraib. It's not fair, it's not right, but some people do think of us kinda like you think of Mr Levin.

    By the way, I know Carl Levin, and I would not describe him as either "moron" or "liar".
    If he's not a moron or a liar why would he either accidentally, or purposefully conflate the illegal unsanctioned actions at Abu Ghraib with the sanctioned coercive interrogations which took place at Gitmo?

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    Re: Levin: Memos don't show what Cheney says they do

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    If he's not a moron or a liar why would he either accidentally, or purposefully conflate the illegal unsanctioned actions at Abu Ghraib with the sanctioned coercive interrogations which took place at Gitmo?
    He did not do that though. He said "if they are once more seen as representative of America", that is, that this is how people came to view the US under Bush.

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    Re: Levin: Memos don't show what Cheney says they do

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    He did not do that though. He said "if they are once more seen as representative of America", that is, that this is how people came to view the US under Bush.
    No he clearly conflated the two. Abu Ghraib has no place whatsoever in the current debate, it's a strawman.

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