So yeah... ****, we agree almost on something...
They'll show Cheney was right and Levin is a lying stooge!
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It seems to me that Cheney said essentially "use of the techniques uncovered useful information and saved lives."
Levin says "the documents say nothing about how many lives were saved."
He created a straw man argument that he could easily knock down.
What he certainly didn't say was that the information uncovered did not prevent any attacks. He also didn't say that the info obtained wasn't obtained through EIT's.
Think there's a reason he didn't make those statements?
The Michigan Democrat told the crowd that the two CIA documents that Cheney wants released "say nothing about numbers of lives saved, nor do the documents connect acquisition of valuable intelligence to the use of abusive techniques."
Last edited by buck; 05-29-09 at 07:51 PM.
the only thing you can take from that comment is that the documents he specified he reviewed do not state the info was obtained from EIT. For all we know, the documents might not state how the info was obtained, period.
However, you can't assume from that comment that the info wasn't obtained from EIT.
He easily could have specified that the info wasn't obtained from EIT. I think it's very telling that he didn't.
He also didn't specify that attacks weren't prevented.
He only stated the documents do not specify how many lives were saved - which is stupid. I would hardly expect a document talking about intelligence that was obtained to specify the number of lives saved due to that info.
Overall it's a very weak and cagey quote from Levin.
However, you and I are pretty close to agreement.
So let me ask the conservatives something.
When people accused Bush and Cheney of Lying and to release classified documents that was wrong to conservatives because it could jeopardize national security.
But now that a Dem president is in charge they think those same classified memos should be released even though it could jeopardize national security?
At least keep consistent.
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