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    Re: Cop pulls over ambulance

    Quote Originally Posted by akyron View Post
    I am not getting the failure to yield. He did get out of his way. Is slipping someone "the bird" even if it did happen against the law?
    I know, I don't see the failure to yield case at all, but the trooper is the one making that claim. I'd like to see his dash cam if he's got one. I'd also like to hear the radio traffic.

    And flipping the bird, I don't think so in Oklahoma. I know it's not in Missouri. Maybe it could be peace disturbance? It's weak sauce. People flipped me off when I was working and I'd pull them over and they'd say "hey it's not against the law." And I'd say "I know, but it appeared you were trying to get my attention, now you have it. And since we are talking, I'd like to see your identification so I know who I'm dealing with."
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    Re: Cop pulls over ambulance

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    People flipped me off when I was working and I'd pull them over and they'd say "hey it's not against the law." And I'd say "I know, but it appeared you were trying to get my attention, now you have it. And since we are talking, I'd like to see your identification so I know who I'm dealing with."
    Heh....perfect response. It's just plain stupid to go out of one's way to make trouble with an officer

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    I think the dude who wrote that report, and his partner for that matter, are completely full of it. There are so many logical inconsistencies to their story it is astounding anyone with an IQ over that of a wet noodle would believe any of it.

    It looks like some negligent EMTs tried to pull rank with some cops.

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    Re: Cop pulls over ambulance

    I read the EMT's statement, and my view is that the patient in the ambulance was at the heart of this matter and is the one person overlooked in this entire story.

    If a person is in an ambulance then they are by default in need of emergency care, and that trumps any state trooper wanting to issue a ticket. Based on the statement, it sounds like the police officer had an anger management problem when he was confronted by the fact that State laws regarding EMTs overrode his authority to detain them then and there. He tried to exercise more control, and failed.

    You let the EMTs take the person to the hospital and then you take legal action. Not to mention, the entire family was nearby, wondering why their mother was being obstructured from going to the hospital?

    Sounds to me like a power hungry cop let his emotions get in the way of seeing a rational way out of the situation. No surprise there. I hope the EMT wins his case.

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    Re: Cop pulls over ambulance

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    I read the EMT's statement, and my view is that the patient in the ambulance was at the heart of this matter and is the one person overlooked in this entire story. If a person is in an ambulance then they are by default in need of emergency care, and that trumps any state trooper wanting to issue a ticket.
    No. They aren't. You watch too much TV. I've been on an ambulace personally 3 times in my life. and none of them were emergency situations.

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    Based on the statement, it sounds like the police officer had an anger management problem when he was confronted by the fact that State laws regarding EMTs overrode his authority to detain them then and there. He tried to exercise more control, and failed.
    --The EMTs were negligent in not having their lights and siren on if they truly had an emergency situation.
    --The driver was negligent for not seeing the cop.
    --The black dude was negligent in escalating the situation(in several ways) instead of diffusing it.

    This is confirmed by direct video evidence and/or the statement of the EMT himself.

    The police officer was performing his duties, however rude, callous or obnoxious you believe them to be. The EMT was a moron to claim some sort of protection, as they had already violated several laws, meaning they were not lawfully carrying out their duties. If the EMTs truly did have an emergency situations, they were grossly negligent and should be held perhaps professionally and criminally liable.
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    Re: Cop pulls over ambulance

    Quote Originally Posted by vendur View Post
    No. They aren't. You watch too much TV. I've been on an ambulace personally 3 times in my life. and none of them were emergency situations.



    --The EMTs were negligent in not having their lights and siren on if they truly had an emergency situation.
    --The driver was negligent for not seeing the cop.
    --The black dude was negligent in escalating the situation(in several ways) instead of diffusing it.

    This is confirmed by direct video evidence and/or the statement of the EMT himself.

    The police officer was performing his duties, however rude, callous or obnoxious you believe them to be. The EMT was a moron to claim some sort of protection, as they had already violated several laws, meaning they were not lawfully carrying out their duties. If the EMTs truly did have an emergency situations, they were grossly negligent and should be held perhaps professionally and criminally liable.
    Please allow me to assign you your very first "THANKS" for a perfect arguement in DP.
    I give The average paramedic or (yes even) EMT a 99.9% rateing. Not for perfection, because not one of them is perfect, but for effort. In the case before us, we have the .1% EMT.

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    Re: Cop pulls over ambulance

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Wow, I have no idea what that means
    It's pretty simply to explain.

    That particular pdf looks like plain text to a human, but it is actually a picture (an image), so a computer can't decipher the text without using some sort of character recognition software. This use of images is not restricted to PDF's and could be done by any page you link to.

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    Re: Cop pulls over ambulance

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    It's pretty simply to explain.

    That particular pdf looks like plain text to a human, but it is actually a picture (an image), so a computer can't decipher the text without using some sort of character recognition software. This use of images is not restricted to PDF's and could be done by any page you link to.
    When I click the link, the comp asks me to either select a program to open it with (and I know this comp doesn't have it), or to go online to find the program.

    The second option...well that has yet to work in my entire life...at least without a credit card number

    I'm not paying for Adobey, or players, or plug-ins, or anything like that.
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    Re: Cop pulls over ambulance

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    Here's an excerpt from the EMT's statement.
    That's a police officer that needs to be driving a desk or off the force.

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    Re: Cop pulls over ambulance

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    Obviously the guy was paraphrasing, you're over exaggerating the what this guy said. The EMT did resist arrest, and I've told people in the past that I've had to fight with that that was a good way to get killed. And it is. When you fight a cop there is always a gun involved. It's plausible the cop told the EMT's partner "hey he's lucky, I could have shot him for resisting arrest." If you know anything about the Oklahoma Highway Patrol, you'd not be surprised at all by this. In Oklahoma they still shoot at you for fleeing from a traffic stop, I know, I had shotgun pellets hit my windshield at the state line about six years ago. They're attitude about lethal force is very cavalier. It's the wild west in that state and that's not a joke.
    Totally true. You don't dare even seem to be talking back to these guys. That's why the EMT guy really IS lucky. In OKC, they shut off the cameras in the elevator (the jail is upstairs) when they were taking my husband to jail, and were beating the crap out of him just because he "looked funny" at one of them. The only thing that stopped them was he told them "Hey, no need to do this, my wife will take care of this part when I get home." They both started laughing and quit beating him.

    His best friend, was shot in the back with a shotgun by the OHP. He was drunk, pulled off the road into a rest stop to sleep, and they woke him up. One cop pulled him out of the car, the other had the shotgun pointed at him. Gene was a big ole guy and the arresting cop couldn't quite get his hands together for the cuffs, the guy with the shotgun hit him in the back of the knees. When Gene (naturally) brought his hands forward to break his fall, the cop shot him in the back.

    Yeah, OK is one state they'll shoot you just for looking at them wrong.
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