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Petraeus Endorses Obama's Plans To Close GITMO, End Torture

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First Posted: 05-26-09 09:08 AM | Updated: 05-26-09 11:36 AM

In an appearance on Radio Free Europe on Sunday, the man hailed by conservatives as the preeminent military figure of his generation left little room for doubt about where he stands on some of Obama's most contentious policies.

"I think, on balance, that those moves help [us]," said the chief of U.S. Central Command. "In fact, I have long been on record as having testified and also in helping write doctrine for interrogation techniques that are completely in line with the Geneva Convention. And as a division commander in Iraq in the early days, we put out guidance very early on to make sure that our soldiers, in fact, knew that we needed to stay within those guidelines.

"With respect to Guantanamo," Petraeus added, "I think that the closure in a responsible manner, obviously one that is certainly being worked out now by the Department of Justice -- I talked to the Attorney General the other day [and] they have a very intensive effort ongoing to determine, indeed, what to do with the detainees who are left, how to deal with them in a legal way, and if continued incarceration is necessary -- again, how to take that forward. But doing that in a responsible manner, I think, sends an important message to the world, as does the commitment of the United States to observe the Geneva Convention when it comes to the treatment of detainees."

Petraeus Endorses Obama's Plans To Close GITMO, End Torture

So here we have the Republicans favorite General endorsing The Presidents plan to close Gitmo. In fact he says "I think, sends an important message to the world, as does the commitment of the United States to observe the Geneva Convention when it comes to the treatment of detainees."
I'm curious to hear what the torture deniers have to say about this Four Star General's comments reguarding closing Gitmo and His Endorsment of President Obama?

Do they still support this troop?
 
So now MoveOn will take out an ad thanking General Petraeus for being such a great guy? Or no?

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Obama has done nothing with Gitmo other than completely imitate the policies of the Bush administration.

In fact, almost everything Obama has done has been a imitation of the Bush policies, save for taxes-- about the only thing that was "conservative" about Bush.

But apparently the koolaid tastes better when the servant is "colored".
 
Obama has done nothing with Gitmo other than completely imitate the policies of the Bush administration.

In fact, almost everything Obama has done has been a imitation of the Bush policies, save for taxes-- about the only thing that was "conservative" about Bush.

But apparently the koolaid tastes better when the servant is "colored".

I prefer that he took some time to carefully examine the issue before taking action. Beats the hell out of flying by the seat of our pants as a nation.
 
SO "betrayus" is now in vogue for the kook leftists. :roll: the hypocrisy is sickening.
 
SO "betrayus" is now in vogue for the kook leftists. :roll: the hypocrisy is sickening.

Can you elaborate further? I've always liked Petraeus. Are you satirizing the leftist term for him? Or is that a military term for him? I'm just asking because I thought he was well-liked in military circles.
 
I prefer that he took some time to carefully examine the issue before taking action. Beats the hell out of flying by the seat of our pants as a nation.

So Bush's "gut" is equal to Obama's ponderous intellectual reflection. And that comforts you?


It's all perfunctory and forgone. They both read from the same statist script. They just wag different dogs.
 
So now MoveOn will take out an ad thanking General Petraeus for being such a great guy?

MoveOn.org no more represents the Dem party than Fox represents the Repub party.

General Petraeus is just the latest military leader to back yet another of Obama's decisions. :2wave:
 
Can you elaborate further? I've always liked Petraeus. Are you satirizing the leftist term for him? Or is that a military term for him? I'm just asking because I thought he was well-liked in military circles.




the leftists, remember that ad? Remember the vitriol against him, it was sickening...


Now they want to chum up to him?
 
So Bush's "gut" is equal to Obama's ponderous intellectual reflection. And that comforts you?

I am somewhat comforted that Obama took time to actually study the problem before making sweeping changes. Sorry if that alienates the far left, but I think the far left is crazy, anyway, so i'm not really concerned about their feelings at this point in time.
 
the leftists, remember that ad? Remember the vitriol against him, it was sickening...

Now they want to chum up to him?

I don't remember the ad, so I was at a loss to interpret your comments.

Moveon.org is one of the most lunatic organizations in the history of this country, so I try not to pay much attention to them.

In fact, I fully credit them with my decision to vote for Bush in 2004. Their mudslinging idiocy completely alienated me from their ideas.
 
The OP is not about MoveOn's ad against General Petraeus, but about his recently stated position on torture and the closing of Gitmo. I believe it is sincere, else he would have just kept quiet.
 
MoveOn.org no more represents the Dem party than Fox represents the Repub party.

General Petraeus is just the latest military leader to back yet another of Obama's decisions. :2wave:

It seems a lot of Obama's decisions are the same as George Bush's. But Obama doesn't get viciously attacked the way Bush did. Some things are just the way they are and it has nothing to do with George Bush as Obama is finding out.

Bush said that he wanted us out of Guantanamo long before he left office.
 
The OP is not about MoveOn's ad against General Petraeus, but about his recently stated position on torture and the closing of Gitmo. I believe it is sincere, else he would have just kept quiet.

I think that Hellhound is right to point out that those who once criticized Petraeus have now, because he's working for Obama, become his biggest fans. It speaks to the fickle nature of their views, and their short attention spans.
 
It seems a lot of Obama's decisions are the same as George Bush's. But Obama doesn't get viciously attacked the way Bush did. Some things are just the way they are and it has nothing to do with George Bush as Obama is finding out.

Bush said that he wanted us out of Guantanamo long before he left office.

Yet he kept it open and his administration eluded that the existence of GITMO and the interrogations taking place their were essential to our national security and removing these things would create a gaping hole of vulnerability for us.

Actions speak louder then words. Obama will realize that soon enough if he fails to take action.
 
SO "betrayus" is now in vogue for the kook leftists. :roll: the hypocrisy is sickening.

I haven't seen MoveOn praise Petraeus yet but of course if he now is in agreement with what MoveOn feels is right then of course they would.

Would you find yourself a hypocrite if you found yourself praising someone for agreeing with you even if you previously attacked them for their previous stance?
 
I think that Hellhound is right to point out that those who once criticized Petraeus have now, because he's working for Obama, become his biggest fans. It speaks to the fickle nature of their views, and their short attention spans.

Fine, having "pointed it out", could we discuss the issue of Petraeus' endorsement of the Obama plan to close Gitmo?
 
SO "betrayus" is now in vogue for the kook leftists. :roll: the hypocrisy is sickening.
I realize that Conservatives have trouble adapting to changes...even positive changes...but try not to let your unconscious defense mechanism deny thoughts, feelings, or facts that are consciously intolerable to you...like Patraeus speaking the truth. The OP is not about the left dissagreeing with Patraeus during the surge, and agreeing with him now. Right now the man whom the right put on a pedestal as the most "brilliant military mind alive" agrees with Obama, and not with you. And righties can't squirm out of that reality with the "you didn't agree with him in 2007" defense.
 
Fine, having "pointed it out", could we discuss the issue of Petraeus' endorsement of the Obama plan to close Gitmo?

Absolutely. Now that Petraeus is endorsing Obama's closure of Gitmo, is he still going to be looked at as "Betrayus" by Moveon.org?
 
Absolutely. Now that Petraeus is endorsing Obama's closure of Gitmo, is he still going to be looked at as "Betrayus" by Moveon.org?


who cares? What is your reaction to his statement?
 
Absolutely. Now that Petraeus is endorsing Obama's closure of Gitmo, is he still going to be looked at as "Betrayus" by Moveon.org?

There are roughly 28 million registered Democrats in this country. MoveOn represents about 3 million of them. They are hardly the spokesmen for "the left".

What does Moveon.org thinks have to do with Petraeus endorsing Obama? Does what StormFront thinks dictate who those on the right should and should not embrace?
 
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who cares? What is your reaction to his statement?

I am neutral and still respect Petraeus. I am wondering how those who lambasted him as a traitor before are going to react to him now that he is voicing an opinion they agree with.
 
There are roughly 28 million registered Democrats in this country. MoveOn represents about 3 million of them. They are hardly the spokesmen for "the left".

What does Moveon.org thinks have to do with Petraeus endorsing Obama?

I didn't say all democrats. I said "moveon", who voiced strong opinions against Petreaus before. I am curious about that dynamic. If you aren't, simply don't respond.
 
I didn't say all democrats. I said "moveon", who voiced strong opinions against Petreaus before. I am curious about that dynamic. If you aren't, simply don't respond.

Sorry the Rev got my wound up with his ignorant over generalizations.

My thoughts are that they will no doubt praise him for his endorsement. Though while condemning him for his previous decisions, thank him for finally coming around.

MoveOn is a ludicrous group of individuals.
 
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