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    Re: Petraeus Endorses Obama's Plans To Close GITMO, End Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    the leftists, remember that ad? Remember the vitriol against him, it was sickening...

    Now they want to chum up to him?
    I don't remember the ad, so I was at a loss to interpret your comments.

    Moveon.org is one of the most lunatic organizations in the history of this country, so I try not to pay much attention to them.

    In fact, I fully credit them with my decision to vote for Bush in 2004. Their mudslinging idiocy completely alienated me from their ideas.

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    Re: Petraeus Endorses Obama's Plans To Close GITMO, End Torture

    The OP is not about MoveOn's ad against General Petraeus, but about his recently stated position on torture and the closing of Gitmo. I believe it is sincere, else he would have just kept quiet.

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    Re: Petraeus Endorses Obama's Plans To Close GITMO, End Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    MoveOn.org no more represents the Dem party than Fox represents the Repub party.

    General Petraeus is just the latest military leader to back yet another of Obama's decisions.
    It seems a lot of Obama's decisions are the same as George Bush's. But Obama doesn't get viciously attacked the way Bush did. Some things are just the way they are and it has nothing to do with George Bush as Obama is finding out.

    Bush said that he wanted us out of Guantanamo long before he left office.

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    Re: Petraeus Endorses Obama's Plans To Close GITMO, End Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    The OP is not about MoveOn's ad against General Petraeus, but about his recently stated position on torture and the closing of Gitmo. I believe it is sincere, else he would have just kept quiet.
    I think that Hellhound is right to point out that those who once criticized Petraeus have now, because he's working for Obama, become his biggest fans. It speaks to the fickle nature of their views, and their short attention spans.

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    Re: Petraeus Endorses Obama's Plans To Close GITMO, End Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    It seems a lot of Obama's decisions are the same as George Bush's. But Obama doesn't get viciously attacked the way Bush did. Some things are just the way they are and it has nothing to do with George Bush as Obama is finding out.

    Bush said that he wanted us out of Guantanamo long before he left office.
    Yet he kept it open and his administration eluded that the existence of GITMO and the interrogations taking place their were essential to our national security and removing these things would create a gaping hole of vulnerability for us.

    Actions speak louder then words. Obama will realize that soon enough if he fails to take action.
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    Re: Petraeus Endorses Obama's Plans To Close GITMO, End Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    SO "betrayus" is now in vogue for the kook leftists. the hypocrisy is sickening.
    I haven't seen MoveOn praise Petraeus yet but of course if he now is in agreement with what MoveOn feels is right then of course they would.

    Would you find yourself a hypocrite if you found yourself praising someone for agreeing with you even if you previously attacked them for their previous stance?
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    Re: Petraeus Endorses Obama's Plans To Close GITMO, End Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I think that Hellhound is right to point out that those who once criticized Petraeus have now, because he's working for Obama, become his biggest fans. It speaks to the fickle nature of their views, and their short attention spans.
    Fine, having "pointed it out", could we discuss the issue of Petraeus' endorsement of the Obama plan to close Gitmo?

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    Re: Petraeus Endorses Obama's Plans To Close GITMO, End Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    SO "betrayus" is now in vogue for the kook leftists. the hypocrisy is sickening.
    I realize that Conservatives have trouble adapting to changes...even positive changes...but try not to let your unconscious defense mechanism deny thoughts, feelings, or facts that are consciously intolerable to you...like Patraeus speaking the truth. The OP is not about the left dissagreeing with Patraeus during the surge, and agreeing with him now. Right now the man whom the right put on a pedestal as the most "brilliant military mind alive" agrees with Obama, and not with you. And righties can't squirm out of that reality with the "you didn't agree with him in 2007" defense.
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    Re: Petraeus Endorses Obama's Plans To Close GITMO, End Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Fine, having "pointed it out", could we discuss the issue of Petraeus' endorsement of the Obama plan to close Gitmo?
    Maybe. But only if you ask nicely.

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    Re: Petraeus Endorses Obama's Plans To Close GITMO, End Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Fine, having "pointed it out", could we discuss the issue of Petraeus' endorsement of the Obama plan to close Gitmo?
    Absolutely. Now that Petraeus is endorsing Obama's closure of Gitmo, is he still going to be looked at as "Betrayus" by Moveon.org?

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