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    Re: Petraeus Endorses Obama's Plans To Close GITMO, End Torture

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    I recall that but weren't they sent back because their Civilian Lawyer said that they couldn't get a fair trail in Japan.
    They were tried and convicted and last I heard were serving their sentences in a Japanese prison.
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    Re: Petraeus Endorses Obama's Plans To Close GITMO, End Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    The reality is that at least he is trying. His original projections for pulling out may have been far too aggressive for the reality of the situation, but he is working towards that goal in earnest. And that is what is important. He's trying to get us out of there as quickly and responsibly as he can.

    Nobody is making any case of importance over whether or not he actually makes his 18 month time line. No plan survives contact with the enemy.
    Obama's campaign rhetoric was clearly pandering to his Left wing supporters who want us out regardless of the situation on the ground; and because of his lack of experience and ignorance, he made promises he now cannot keep.

    Obama's plans for Iraq, Afghanistan and closing of Guantanamo mirror Bush’s and it is not by accident; this is just an uninformed Obama getting slapped with the REALITY of being President, nothing more or less.

    Bush never intended to keep us there forever; that lie was just the typical farcical rhetoric from Democrats we are growing accustomed to; much like the farcical rhetoric of how we were losing in Iraq and Afghanistan or the equally asinine notion that the USA illegally tortures its detainees.

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    Re: Petraeus Endorses Obama's Plans To Close GITMO, End Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    Nobody is making any case of importance over whether or not he actually makes his 18 month time line. No plan survives contact with the enemy.
    I dont recall you being this generous with GWB...?

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    Re: Petraeus Endorses Obama's Plans To Close GITMO, End Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    I dont recall you being this generous with GWB...?
    Why would I be? Bush knowingly started out with an abortion of a plan and just continued to push it.
    *insert profound statement here*

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    Re: Petraeus Endorses Obama's Plans To Close GITMO, End Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    Why would I be? Bush knowingly started out with an abortion of a plan and just continued to push it.
    Of course. Silly me.
    Because, you know, that's SO much better than starting out with an abortion of a plan, created from partisan campaign promises made with the sole objective of getting elected, with no idea whatsoever if they could be implemented.

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    Re: Petraeus Endorses Obama's Plans To Close GITMO, End Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Of course. Silly me.
    Quoted for truth.

    The rest I'll let you argue with yourself on.
    *insert profound statement here*

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    Re: Petraeus Endorses Obama's Plans To Close GITMO, End Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    Quoted for truth.

    The rest I'll let you argue with yourself on.
    Sure you will -- because you know you cannot defend your blatant partisanship.

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    Re: Petraeus Endorses Obama's Plans To Close GITMO, End Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Sure you will -- because you know you cannot defend your blatant partisanship.
    HAA!~!

    Sorry, but from just the brief time I've been here, the "blatant partisan" in this exchange is obvious.

    And it ain't Lerxst, my friend.

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    Re: Petraeus Endorses Obama's Plans To Close GITMO, End Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Glinda View Post
    HAA!~!

    Sorry, but from just the brief time I've been here, the "blatant partisan" in this exchange is obvious.

    And it ain't Lerxst, my friend.
    I'm sorry -- did you want to actually address the issue here, or did you want to continue to reveal your own partisan-based bigotry?

    Because, really, is there any reasron to expect you'd see it any other way?

    Now then... tell me how it is that The Obama deserves the pass Lerxst gives Him, based on the idea that "no plan survives contact with the enemy', whereas GWB does not.
    Last edited by Goobieman; 06-01-09 at 04:03 PM.

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    Re: Petraeus Endorses Obama's Plans To Close GITMO, End Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Now then... tell me how it is that The Obama deserves the pass Lerxst gives Him, based on the idea that "no plan survises contact with the enemy:, whereas GWB does not.
    I suppose you'd have to ask Lerxst. *shrug*

    As for your partisanship, you outed yourself by your use of such phrases as "Bush Derangement Syndrome" and "The Obama."

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