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    Re: Petraeus Endorses Obama's Plans To Close GITMO, End Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    No, because at the time, President Bush was his boss. Now he has a new boss. He basically has 3 choices here...rebel against the new boss quietly and retire, rebel openly and be retired, or do his job and publicly support his boss. He's doing exactly what's expected of any good officer.
    I should have read further down before posting...

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    Re: Petraeus Endorses Obama's Plans To Close GITMO, End Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I should have read further down before posting...
    No worries. I'm amazed at the number of people that think that any military officer's opinion really matters when speaking publicly, or that it is his or her own opinion.
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    Re: Petraeus Endorses Obama's Plans To Close GITMO, End Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    No, because at the time, President Bush was his boss. Now he has a new boss. He basically has 3 choices here...rebel against the new boss quietly and retire, rebel openly and be retired, or do his job and publicly support his boss. He's doing exactly what's expected of any good officer.
    Maybe I was not being clear. If Petraeus is willing to testify to whatever his CinC wants him to, does that not mean it could have been the case when President Bush was that CinC?

    If we start questioning his honesty in testimony, then we have to question it all.

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    Re: Petraeus Endorses Obama's Plans To Close GITMO, End Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Maybe I was not being clear. If Petraeus is willing to testify to whatever his CinC wants him to, does that not mean it could have been the case when President Bush was that CinC?

    If we start questioning his honesty in testimony, then we have to question it all.





    Wait.....when did he "testify"?
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    Re: Petraeus Endorses Obama's Plans To Close GITMO, End Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Maybe I was not being clear. If Petraeus is willing to testify to whatever his CinC wants him to, does that not mean it could have been the case when President Bush was that CinC?

    If we start questioning his honesty in testimony, then we have to question it all.
    Testify? I thought this was an interview with a newspaper?
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    Re: Petraeus Endorses Obama's Plans To Close GITMO, End Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    No worries. I'm amazed at the number of people that think that any military officer's opinion really matters when speaking publicly, or that it is his or her own opinion.
    There are ways a military person can express their own opinions in the media that is legal and possible. It would mean possible death to a long range carreer, but some one like Petraeus is pretty safe from that, both in being at the approximate end of his career, and being untouchable due to his high public profile.

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    Re: Petraeus Endorses Obama's Plans To Close GITMO, End Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Wait.....when did he "testify"?
    Replace that with "speak in public" then.

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    Re: Petraeus Endorses Obama's Plans To Close GITMO, End Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    There are ways a military person can express their own opinions in the media that is legal and possible. It would mean possible death to a long range carreer, but some one like Petraeus is pretty safe from that, both in being at the approximate end of his career, and being untouchable due to his high public profile.
    There are no untouchable military officers. Just remember Douglas MacArthur.
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    Re: Petraeus Endorses Obama's Plans To Close GITMO, End Torture

    So let me get this straight, Petraus is endorsing Obama's policy on Gitmo, which is essentially "do nothing".

    alrighty then.

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    Re: Petraeus Endorses Obama's Plans To Close GITMO, End Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    There are no untouchable military officers. Just remember Douglas MacArthur.
    I dunno in this case. The world is significantly different from the 50's, and the media coverage of world events is very different. Any attempt to remove him after he spoke in disagreement of the administration would cause a political firestorm that I doubt most presidents would want.

    It's not an absolute untouchableness(is that a word), but it is pretty safe.

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