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Polls: Opposition to 'gay marriage' on rise

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Disney Dude keep saying more and more people in this country are embracing Gay Marriage..These two polls (one a Gallup) say otherwise.


Baptist Press - Polls: Opposition to 'gay marriage' on rise - News with a Christian Perspective

Polls: Opposition to 'gay marriage' on rise


Posted on May 27, 2009 | by Michael Foust
NASHVILLE, Tenn. (BP)--A handful of state legislatures may be embracing "gay marriage," but two new polls show that Americans -- as well as Californians -- are not.

A Gallup poll of 1,015 adults released Wednesday (May 27) shows that Americans oppose legalizing "gay marriage" by a margin of 57-40 percent, the highest opposition has been in the poll since 2005, when a similar survey showed a margin of 59-37 percent against "gay marriage." The poll was conducted May 7-10 via landline and cell phones.
 
Navy Pride said:
Disney Dude keep saying more and more people in this country are embracing Gay Marriage..These two polls (one a Gallup) say otherwise.


Baptist Press - Polls: Opposition to 'gay marriage' on rise - News with a Christian Perspective

Polls: Opposition to 'gay marriage' on rise


Posted on May 27, 2009 | by Michael Foust
NASHVILLE, Tenn. (BP)--A handful of state legislatures may be embracing "gay marriage," but two new polls show that Americans -- as well as Californians -- are not.

A Gallup poll of 1,015 adults released Wednesday (May 27) shows that Americans oppose legalizing "gay marriage" by a margin of 57-40 percent, the highest opposition has been in the poll since 2005, when a similar survey showed a margin of 59-37 percent against "gay marriage." The poll was conducted May 7-10 via landline and cell phones.
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Your source is hardly unbiased. Regardless, the polling numbers may shift slightly up and down, but this is an issue that isn't going to go away. People will continue to fight for their rights until they get them just like any other civil rights issue. I'm sure you don't see this as a civil rights issue, but that doesn't change the fact that this issue is going to stay at the forefront.
 
dclxvinoise said:
Your source is hardly unbiased. Regardless, the polling numbers may shift slightly up and down, but this is an issue that isn't going to go away. People will continue to fight for their rights until they get them just like any other civil rights issue. I'm sure you don't see this as a civil rights issue, but that doesn't change the fact that this issue is going to stay at the forefront.
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My source is quoting a Gallup poll taken hardly a partisan organization......just like a lefty though, shoot the messenger..............
 
Navy Pride said:
My source is quoting a Gallup poll taken hardly a partisan organization......just like a lefty though, shoot the messenger..............
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No, I don't question the poll results. I question the fact that you used a Christian news article for your source, because obviously they are going to have a bias. And you can try to turn this into a left vs. right argument, but that has absolutely nothing to do with it. I would have questioned the source if someone posted a similar article from a left wing news organization with completely opposite results. In fact, I have a feeling that you would be criticizing someone for doing that very thing.

As for the polling results themselves, I seem to recall you changing your views constantly on the bias and validity of polls during the election season whenever it showed Obama ahead.
 
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Navy Pride said:
My source is quoting a Gallup poll taken hardly a partisan organization......just like a lefty though, shoot the messenger..............
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There is biased, there is severely biased...then there is the Baptist Press and miscellaneous Family Values foundations. If there was data showing acceptance for gay marriage on the rise, they wouldn't publish it al all. Or they'd spin it to suit thier agenda.

Put yourself in my shoes...would you consider any information from say...MoveOn.org, or Huffington Post regarding this issue?
 
Too funny Navy!

You really are grasping to hold onto your last hopes on this issue.

Unfortunately for you, one single poll showing a slight shift of 2% is hardly proof of your position.

You have to look at a number of factors including polling, changing demographics, etc.
Over the last decade there has been a huge shift nationwide in views regarding gay marriage.

I know that there will be a change in my lifetime. I used to think it would take longer, but am now convinced that it will even happen within your lifetime.

People in the United States, despite our stubborness, ultimately understand that it is wrong to discriminate. More people are becoming ashamed of their attitudes against gay marriage, just as we grew to become ashamed of our attitudes against inter-racial marriage or believing that women and ethnic minorities were somehow inferior to white males. This same shift is occurring towards the view that gay relationships are somehow inferior to heterosexual ones.
Young people in this country overwhelmingly are accepting of gays in general, gay marriage in specifics. The shift is already occurring in older voters, add these younger voters into the mix as they grow to voting age and you begin to see how you can only hold your finger in the dam so long, Navy before the cracks overcome your wall.

...But keep holding that finger in there Navy....the attitudes of your generation are almost always the last to change.
 
The Baptist Press.

Please get the hell out of BN.
 
dclxvinoise said:
No, I don't question the poll results. I question the fact that you used a Christian news article for your source, because obviously they are going to have a bias. And you can try to turn this into a left vs. right argument, but that has absolutely nothing to do with it. I would have questioned the source if someone posted a similar article from a left wing news organization with completely opposite results. In fact, I have a feeling that you would be criticizing someone for doing that very thing.

As for the polling results themselves, I seem to recall you changing your views constantly on the bias and validity of polls during the election season whenever it showed Obama ahead.
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Again my left wing friend you are shooting the messenger.........They did not do the poll, they just published it...........Gallup did the poll........
 
Navy Pride said:
Again my left wing friend you are shooting the messenger.........They did not do the poll, they just published it...........Gallup did the poll........
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I'm not shooting the messenger. As I stated, I take no issue with the polling results. I do, however, take issue with the fact that these results were cited by a biased source and that you used that as a source for this thread. I also take issue with your hypocrisy in knowing that you would most likely be criticizing someone on the left for doing this exact thing.
 
Goldwaters said:
There is biased, there is severely biased...then there is the Baptist Press and miscellaneous Family Values foundations. If there was data showing acceptance for gay marriage on the rise, they wouldn't publish it al all. Or they'd spin it to suit thier agenda.

Put yourself in my shoes...would you consider any information from say...MoveOn.org, or Huffington Post regarding this issue?
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I hate Moveon.org but if they cited a poll published by Gallup, Rasmussen or any of the other nonbiased polling organizations I would believe it.....
 
Navy Pride said:
I hate Moveon.org but if they cited a poll published by Gallup, Rasmussen or any of the other nonbiased polling organizations I would believe it.....
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You may believe the polling results (though, who really knows after you flip flopped on which polling organizations you considered biased throughout the election cycle). But you would criticize the poster for using a biased article as a source.
 
Navy Pride said:
You ever hear of Gallup?
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And interestingly, the link I provided went to a thread with actual Gallup results linked, not some partisan article that refers second hand without a link to Gallup.......................
 
disneydude said:
Too funny Navy!

You really are grasping to hold onto your last hopes on this issue.

Unfortunately for you, one single poll showing a slight shift of 2% is hardly proof of your position.

You have to look at a number of factors including polling, changing demographics, etc.
Over the last decade there has been a huge shift nationwide in views regarding gay marriage.

I know that there will be a change in my lifetime. I used to think it would take longer, but am now convinced that it will even happen within your lifetime.



People in the United States, despite our stubborness, ultimately understand that it is wrong to discriminate. More people are becoming ashamed of their attitudes against gay marriage, just as we grew to become ashamed of our attitudes against inter-racial marriage or believing that women and ethnic minorities were somehow inferior to white males. This same shift is occurring towards the view that gay relationships are somehow inferior to heterosexual ones.
Young people in this country overwhelmingly are accepting of gays in general, gay marriage in specifics. The shift is already occurring in older voters, add these younger voters into the mix as they grow to voting age and you begin to see how you can only hold your finger in the dam so long, Navy before the cracks overcome your wall.

...But keep holding that finger in there Navy....the attitudes of your generation are almost always the last to change.
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Dream on DD, your side is losing and you know it..........

There was more then one poll DD and I am not the one grasping for straws......Unlike you I believe if any state votes to allow gay marriage I would go along with it..........That has yet to happen in any state and never will........
 
dclxvinoise said:
I'm not shooting the messenger. As I stated, I take no issue with the polling results. I do, however, take issue with the fact that these results were cited by a biased source and that you used that as a source for this thread. I also take issue with your hypocrisy in knowing that you would most likely be criticizing someone on the left for doing this exact thing.
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If the Baptist organization did the poll you might have a point but they didn't......Its like saying I won't accept the results of a poll that Gallup did because CNN (the Communist News Network) published it...Nonsense.....
 
dclxvinoise said:
You may believe the polling results (though, who really knows after you flip flopped on which polling organizations you considered biased throughout the election cycle). But you would criticize the poster for using a biased article as a source.
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Clueless, I give up on you........your to dense to understand........
 
Redress said:
And interestingly, the link I provided went to a thread with actual Gallup results linked, not some partisan article that refers second hand without a link to Gallup.......................
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And the poll numbers are the same..........It does not make a difference who cited the poll, what counts is who did the poll!!!!!
 
Navy Pride said:
If the Baptist organization did the poll you might have a point but they didn't......Its like saying I won't accept the results of a poll that Gallup did because CNN (the Communist News Network) published it...Nonsense.....
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No, it isn't nonsense. Why didn't you make your thread using an unbiased source? Did you have trouble finding a reputable news organization with a similar story citing the same results? If it's such an unbiased story then you should have no trouble finding something reputable.
 
Navy Pride said:
Clueless, I give up on you........your to dense to understand........
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Please address my points and quit trying to derail your own thread with personal attacks. :2wave:
 
Navy Pride said:
And the poll numbers are the same..........It does not make a difference who cited the poll, what counts is who did the poll!!!!!
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Then I go bck to my original comment in the thread I linked. Margin of error..........
 
Navy Pride said:
I hate Moveon.org but if they cited a poll published by Gallup, Rasmussen or any of the other nonbiased polling organizations I would believe it.....
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This is just my opinion, but Scott Rasmussen makes regular appearances on Fox News. His polls, as reported on realclearpolitics, are consistantly 5 points higher or lower than the averages in the favor of conservative positions. What Rasmussen does is phrase many of his poll questions in a conservative friendly manner. Here is just one example:

Matthew Yglesias Scott Rasmussen’s Conservative-Friendly Question-Wording

Now...Newsweek does the same thing in favor of the Obama administration/liberals about like Rasmussen does for the right. Gallup is also unreliable but plays it both ways. Which is a good sales technique. That way Conservative media (Fox), and Mainstream media are more likely to buy the rights to show the polls that have info thier viewers would like to be correct.

Even Fox News polls are way more reliable than Rassmussen. Try Quinnipiac and PEW Research.

Just my oppinion, not trying to be annoying. I follow realclearpolitics obsessively.
 
dclxvinoise said:
No, I don't question the poll results. I question the fact that you used a Christian news article for your source, because obviously they are going to have a bias. And you can try to turn this into a left vs. right argument, but that has absolutely nothing to do with it. I would have questioned the source if someone posted a similar article from a left wing news organization with completely opposite results. In fact, I have a feeling that you would be criticizing someone for doing that very thing.

As for the polling results themselves, I seem to recall you changing your views constantly on the bias and validity of polls during the election season whenever it showed Obama ahead.
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...But this is a left vs right issue anyway,(essentialy), and it isn`t automaticly wrong to be RIGHT or of any other system of beliefs that opposes something as wrong as GAY marriage.
You argue that its wrong to provide a source which disagrees with you????:rofl/LMAO

OK ! So in the future we`ll check with the opposition, as to which sources are acceptable.
 
Rodney said:
...But this is a left vs right issue anyway,(essentialy), and it isn`t automaticly wrong to be RIGHT or of any other system of beliefs that opposes something as wrong as GAY marriage.
You argue that its wrong to provide a source which disagrees with you????:rofl/LMAO

OK ! So in the future we`ll check with the opposition, as to which sources are acceptable.
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You may want to familiarize yourself with the BN rules. See, there are specific sections on this forum for partisan or biased news stories. And you are incorrect, this isn't a strictly left vs. right issue. Few issues are that simplistic.
 
Navy Pride said:
I hate Moveon.org but if they cited a poll published by Gallup, Rasmussen or any of the other nonbiased polling organizations I would believe it*.....
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*As long as it supports what I want it to say....otherwise I will call them "A biased pollster that only polls liberals"


Right Navy?

Keep that finger in the hole in the dam.....
 
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