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    Re: Abu Ghraib abuse photos 'show rape'

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Truthfully, I'm thankful for it. If criminals were smarter, we'd catch less of them.
    Yeah, One thing to be glad for.
    The worst of the article comes later on:

    Among the graphic statements, which were later released under US freedom of information laws, is that of Kasim Mehaddi Hilas in which he says: I saw [name of a translator] ******* a kid, his age would be about 15 to 18 years. The kid was hurting very bad and they covered all the doors with sheets. Then when I heard screaming I climbed the door because on top it wasnt covered and I saw [name] who was wearing the military uniform, putting his **** in the little kids ***. and the female soldier was taking pictures.
    An underage kid being raped, this is disgusting.


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    Re: Abu Ghraib abuse photos 'show rape'

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    No. and I don't want to hear speculation of what they are "said to show" either.
    Outside of the photos proving rape is released and us seeing them to confirm it, you will have to trust others account ....


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    Re: Abu Ghraib abuse photos 'show rape'

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
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    What's so bad about that, compared to our enemies cutting off heads? Rape is not torture, and even if it was, I support raping our enemies for useful information.
    LOL... I knew there'd be some that would justify it, just like waterboarding.
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: Abu Ghraib abuse photos 'show rape'

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    There are varying levels of culpability here. A direct order to rape is one thing, but knowing it is occuring while fostering it tacitly is almost as bad. It is the latter tendency that needs to be addressed here.
    Thing is, it's a difficult thing to prove.
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: Abu Ghraib abuse photos 'show rape'

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    LOL... I knew there'd be some that would justify it, just like waterboarding.
    I wonder how quickly these people would switch if torture was used on someone they know.


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    Re: Abu Ghraib abuse photos 'show rape'

    So are these photos showing people who have not been convicted for what happened at Abu Ghraib? Or are these photos of activities already punished?

    Either way, the release of these photos would accomplish what exactly? If its people involved that have gone unpunished, then its evidence for the courtroom where they should be tried. If its for crimes already punished, then why release grotesque photos of this nature? Someone mentioned it would mean Obama wasn't looking the other way, if he released the photos. No, Obama would be looking the other way, if he didn't seek to prosecute all those responsible for what happened Abu Ghraib(if there is anybody left to prosecute at this point). Not releasing the photos, saves us from having it used as even more propoganda for recruitment against US forces in the region. Some of the good work and goodwill that US forces are trying to buildup in these areas, could be negatively impacted by the visual images of the criminal few that were involved.
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    Re: Abu Ghraib abuse photos 'show rape'

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    No. and I don't want to hear speculation of what they are "said to show" either.
    So you neither want to see nor hear about the photos? See no evil eh?

    Don't you trust Obama to do the right thing without you knowing or are you hoping for his "transparency"....
    Transparencyis the right thing. The right thing would be to admit what we have done . If you think we've done nothing wrong what is the problem? If you don't I fail to see how a cover up is the right thing to do.

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    Re: Abu Ghraib abuse photos 'show rape'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    The worst of the article comes later on:

    An underage kid being raped, this is disgusting.
    I can't wait for Hannity to this.

    One thing I will say is that if this occurred, and it appears clear that it did, it endangers our service personnel in far more dangerous ways than the information that supposedly protected Los Angeles.

    We NEED to be perceived as the guys in the white hats, the good guys, the shining city on the hill, to accomplish our longterm goals in the middle east. This endangers our longterm goals far more than isolated acts of terror ever will.

    This has the same impact as one dirty cop has on public confidence in law enforcement and the safety of every other guy on the street.
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    Re: Abu Ghraib abuse photos 'show rape'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Outside of the photos proving rape is released and us seeing them to confirm it, you will have to trust others account ....
    The problem here is that there are no longer standards that have to be met to get into the military. People now get in with felony records, drug use, and mental problems. This should not be. We need to go back to setting entrance standards for the military that are stricter. Meanwhile, the soldier who raped that kid should be court marshaled and sent before a firing squad.
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    Re: Abu Ghraib abuse photos 'show rape'

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    Not releasing the photos, saves us from having it used as even more propoganda for recruitment against US forces in the region. Some of the good work and goodwill that US forces are trying to buildup in these areas, could be negatively impacted by the visual images of the criminal few that were involved.
    There are already Abu Gharib photos which are just as disgusting which is in the public domain, i doubt it would make a difference if some more was just added on it.

    I can see why US should not release the rape photos [privacy of the individual] but then again in the other batch, weren't the faces blocked out? Not to mention our soldiers being put in danger [but then again, they already are a target]


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