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    Re: W.H. to Sotomayor critics: Be 'careful'

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    If she points out her vagina and her minority status and proclaims, "These make me a better judge than some white dude," then her gender/race are relevant to most every discussion about her as far as I'm concerned.
    I would say only in relation to her words on that. I am not going to defend her words, will leave that to her, she knows what she intended, I do not necessarily. However, to suggest she is unqualified because of her race or gender, or to suggest that it is the only way she got the appointment are not really fair comments.

    In other words, her words reflect on her qualifications, but not her race or gender.

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    Re: W.H. to Sotomayor critics: Be 'careful'

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    Unless you can explain to me in what context it would be appropriate for an old white guy to say, "I am an old white guy with a dick and going through life as a white guy with a dick makes me a better judge," then I call b.s. Her statement was inappropriate, unprofessional, and exactly the type of thing a white man could never say without getting reamed for it. Yet out of her mouth, it is excused. I'm real excited for her to start setting policy.
    If he were talking about dick legislation and said he was more qualified than an old latina woman, then he would be fine by me.

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    Re: W.H. to Sotomayor critics: Be 'careful'

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    No, if she was actually making racist remarks I would be the first to call on her to remove herself from consideration. I do not stand-by for second rate cherry picking of facts to simply rouse a base. Especially on a forum that I thought was for intelligent discussion. I can get these arguments on any spin channel.
    The comments are direct quotes, not secondhand stories or rumors. She said them. If you have an issue with the context, then post a fuller version and make your case. Singing the "cherry picking" song doesn't make for much of an intelligent conversation, either.
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    Re: W.H. to Sotomayor critics: Be 'careful'

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    BS alert! She was simply upholding the findings of a lower court. She was not asked to decide the case, but to determine if the lower court had ruled out of the context of the law. Therefor, if she is racist on this account, then all of New Haven is racist. The New Haven City Hall is the original challengers of the promotions.
    Perhaps they are all racist. The case ruled against the fire fighters was some of the most ridiculous rubbish I've ever had the pleasure of reading. They could literally do a SNL skit on it.

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    Re: W.H. to Sotomayor critics: Be 'careful'

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    The comments are direct quotes, not secondhand stories or rumors. She said them. If you have an issue with the context, then post a fuller version and make your case. Singing the "cherry picking" song doesn't make for much of an intelligent conversation, either.
    I already posted it. Twice.

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    Re: W.H. to Sotomayor critics: Be 'careful'

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    If he were talking about dick legislation and said he was more qualified than an old latina woman, then he would be fine by me.
    yeah, right.

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    Re: W.H. to Sotomayor critics: Be 'careful'

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    Perhaps they are all racist. The case ruled against the fire fighters was some of the most ridiculous rubbish I've ever had the pleasure of reading. They could literally do a SNL skit on it.
    I do agree with you on that.

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    Re: W.H. to Sotomayor critics: Be 'careful'

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    I already posted it. Twice.
    Okay. If you say so.
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    Re: W.H. to Sotomayor critics: Be 'careful'

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I would say only in relation to her words on that. I am not going to defend her words, will leave that to her, she knows what she intended, I do not necessarily. However, to suggest she is unqualified because of her race or gender, or to suggest that it is the only way she got the appointment are not really fair comments.

    In other words, her words reflect on her qualifications, but not her race or gender.
    I'm not suggesting she is unqualified. I'm suggesting she is a crappy crappy pick. All women are qualified to be a mother. Some of them do a real crap job at it. Teachers may be completely qualified to teach while being miserable failures at teaching. She may be qualified by I dislike her immensely.

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    Re: W.H. to Sotomayor critics: Be 'careful'

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    yeah, right.
    Seriously, I do not believe in PC.

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