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    Re: W.H. to Sotomayor critics: Be 'careful'

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I dunno. If she is qualified, her gender/race is irrelevant. If she is not, her gender/race are irrelevant.

    if there are 10 qualified candidates all equal, and diversity is a goal, then promoting the one who best increases diversity is fine, but she is still qualified.
    I dunno. I think that the whole tone of this confirmation is already taking a bad turn and smacks of another affirmative action appointment. But what the hell, we already have an affirmative action president. Why not a justice too?

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    Re: W.H. to Sotomayor critics: Be 'careful'

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    Here: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/15/us/15judge.html?_r=1

    Same end result though, cherry picking, partisan garbage is what is being spewed. Sorry to shine light into the dark.
    Sounds more like you want to turn off any light that looks at her comments. Some of her comments are disturbing, but we'll see what happens. I don't think she'll have any trouble being confirmed. She's not a conservative, after all, so her comments will be mostly ignored.
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    Re: W.H. to Sotomayor critics: Be 'careful'

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I dunno. I think that the whole tone of this confirmation is already taking a bad turn and smacks of another affirmative action appointment. But what the hell, we already have an affirmative action president. Why not a justice too?
    Affirmative action will not get you the presidency. Sorry to disappoint you, but that is not how President Obama got the office. Your comment also does not disprove or even suggest that somehow Sotomayor is unqualified. The constitution says that the president picks, it does not tell him how to make the decision.

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    Re: W.H. to Sotomayor critics: Be 'careful'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    ... No i didn't.
    I said the power over SC is in the hands of the Senate and President.

    Just re read the thread and save us both time
    Yes you did.
    Let's figure it out.

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    Re: W.H. to Sotomayor critics: Be 'careful'

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Affirmative action will not get you the presidency. Sorry to disappoint you, but that is not how President Obama got the office. Your comment also does not disprove or even suggest that somehow Sotomayor is unqualified. The constitution says that the president picks, it does not tell him how to make the decision.
    Obama won the presidency because the guy in office before him screwed up. He didn't win it on merit. He didn't win it on skill or policy. He won it because America was ripe for making an historic move in voting a black man into office because we were sick of old white men.

    If he had to do it on merit, he wouldn't have made it out of the primaries.

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    Re: W.H. to Sotomayor critics: Be 'careful'

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Obama won the presidency because the guy in office before him screwed up. He didn't win it on merit. He didn't win it on skill or policy. He won it because America was ripe for making an historic move in voting a black man into office because we were sick of old white men.

    If he had to do it on merit, he wouldn't have made it out of the primaries.
    The person he beat in the primaries was not an old white man either. Let's not go there though, since I was a huge Clinton supporter....

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    Re: W.H. to Sotomayor critics: Be 'careful'

    Quote Originally Posted by FlappyTheKinkajou View Post
    Yes you did.
    God give me patience

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    The Supreme Court has no room for living constitution ****heads.
    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    That is for the President and Senate to decide no?
    Quote Originally Posted by FlappyTheKinkajou View Post
    So you admit that they don't care about justice or the constitution?
    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    What has that got to do with anything?
    You don't get to decide what the SC needs or don't. The power is in the hand of the Senate and President.
    Where in that did i say you had no opinion?


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    Re: W.H. to Sotomayor critics: Be 'careful'

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    6 of one, half dozen of the other. You can't expect to call on her race and gender to bolster her qualifications without expecting a rebuttal to race and gender.
    I think we're supposed to see her as a benefit because she will help minorities get jobs over white folk, just like she got this nomination - by being lucky enough to be a Hispanic woman when a Hispanic woman was wanted. She understands what it is like to be a minority and thus if say some fire fighters have to pass an exam to become lieutenant and only mostly whites pass she can agree that, Yes, the test results should be put in the garbage as they are clearly racist. It's about keeping racism alive by supporting reverse racism. Keep 'em fighting each other so they don't fight the system. This is what she will bring and this is what Obama was looking for. Yippee.

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    Re: W.H. to Sotomayor critics: Be 'careful'

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The person he beat in the primaries was not an old white man either. Let's not go there though, since I was a huge Clinton supporter....
    Had it been down to Hillary and McCain, I probably would have voted for Hillary, actually.

    And no, she wasn't an old white man, but her legacy was tied strongly to one.

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    Re: W.H. to Sotomayor critics: Be 'careful'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    God give me patience









    Where in that did i say you had no opinion?
    I never said that you said that I had no opinion.
    Let's figure it out.

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