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    Re: W.H. to Sotomayor critics: Be 'careful'

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    She also says quite clearly, and in fact in the paragraph right after the controversial comment from the speech, that white men are capable of making very wise decisions.
    How generous of her.

    Still, she then goes back to the "racism is good" theme:
    However, to understand takes time and effort, something that not all people are willing to give. For others, their experiences limit their ability to understand the experiences of others. Other simply do not care. Hence, one must accept the proposition that a difference there will be by the presence of women and people of color on the bench. Personal experiences affect the facts that judges choose to see. My hope is that I will take the good from my experiences and extrapolate them further into areas with which I am unfamiliar. I simply do not know exactly what that difference will be in my judging. But I accept there will be some based on my gender and my Latina heritage.
    We "must accept" that ethnicity matters in judicial review? We "must accept" that ethnicity has relevance in the interpretation of the law? We "must accept" that Judge Sotomayor cannot say how her Latina heritage bears on her rulings, but that she gives her own Latina heritage weight alongside the facts of a case?

    How can any judge who presents this as a serious question be taken seriously?
    For people of color and women lawyers, what does and should being an ethnic minority mean in your lawyering?
    The correct answer is NOTHING.

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    Re: W.H. to Sotomayor critics: Be 'careful'

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    How generous of her.

    Still, she then goes back to the "racism is good" theme:
    We "must accept" that ethnicity matters in judicial review? We "must accept" that ethnicity has relevance in the interpretation of the law? We "must accept" that Judge Sotomayor cannot say how her Latina heritage bears on her rulings, but that she gives her own Latina heritage weight alongside the facts of a case?

    How can any judge who presents this as a serious question be taken seriously?
    The correct answer is NOTHING.
    and you fail to mention she said all this at a seminar about minorities in the legal profession, which she was invited to attend. Instead of pretending she is fixated on her Latin-ness, why can't you admit she was simply addressing the topic of the seminar?

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    Re: W.H. to Sotomayor critics: Be 'careful'

    Make no mistake by being a racist in support of this wildly racist person. Sotomayor belongs to a subversive group and should be rejected .... Arizona, Nevada, New Mexico and parts of Colorado and Texas belong to Aztlan is the view of the Race which she is a member. Not further look at her is needed. She does fit in with the Obamas's if you just be honest about the racist first lady in her own words. It's time to read Sotomayor's own words and not fall for the argument that her statements are taken out of context brcause there is no context in which they are anything but offensive and or racist depending on which of her outrageous remarks you read or quote.
    She needs to be forced to withdraw before it even comes to hearings. And never, never back down in fear of being called a racist but leftists who are threatening us not to tell the truth about this poor excuse for an American or we'll be sorry.

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    Re: W.H. to Sotomayor critics: Be 'careful'

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    There is only one way to interpret the law--only one correct way.

    That correct way is the way of Marbury v Madison--which examined the case, considered the applicable laws, weighed the statutory laws against the Constitution of the United States, and viewed the case objectively in light of what the law says. That correct way is to state with specificity what the law is, what the law allows, within the confines of the Constitution, and leave the notional questions of moral right and moral wrong to the legislatures.

    There is most assuredly one correct manner of interpretation. To argue or pretend otherwise is simply wrong.
    Then why do we need a court system with multiple levels of appeals? If every judge interprets the law the same, why is it so rare that SCOTUS rules 9-0? You are not even close to being intellectually honest here.

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    Re: W.H. to Sotomayor critics: Be 'careful'

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    How generous of her.

    Still, she then goes back to the "racism is good" theme:
    We "must accept" that ethnicity matters in judicial review? We "must accept" that ethnicity has relevance in the interpretation of the law? We "must accept" that Judge Sotomayor cannot say how her Latina heritage bears on her rulings, but that she gives her own Latina heritage weight alongside the facts of a case?

    How can any judge who presents this as a serious question be taken seriously?
    The correct answer is NOTHING.
    If her claim that people of different ethnicities, and different sexes are documented as ruling somewhat differently, then yes, we do have to accept that ethnicity affects rulings. We can deny facts all day long, but it does not make them less true.

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    Re: W.H. to Sotomayor critics: Be 'careful'

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Make no mistake by being a racist in support of this wildly racist person. Sotomayor belongs to a subversive group and should be rejected .... Arizona, Nevada, New Mexico and parts of Colorado and Texas belong to Aztlan is the view of the Race which she is a member. Not further look at her is needed. She does fit in with the Obamas's if you just be honest about the racist first lady in her own words. It's time to read Sotomayor's own words and not fall for the argument that her statements are taken out of context brcause there is no context in which they are anything but offensive and or racist depending on which of her outrageous remarks you read or quote.
    She needs to be forced to withdraw before it even comes to hearings. And never, never back down in fear of being called a racist but leftists who are threatening us not to tell the truth about this poor excuse for an American or we'll be sorry.
    Please go back one page where that is all debunked. In fact, it is debunked by 2 liberals and a conservative who looked into it together this morning.

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    Re: W.H. to Sotomayor critics: Be 'careful'

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Make no mistake by being a racist in support of this wildly racist person. Sotomayor belongs to a subversive group and should be rejected .... Arizona, Nevada, New Mexico and parts of Colorado and Texas belong to Aztlan is the view of the Race which she is a member. Not further look at her is needed. She does fit in with the Obamas's if you just be honest about the racist first lady in her own words. It's time to read Sotomayor's own words and not fall for the argument that her statements are taken out of context brcause there is no context in which they are anything but offensive and or racist depending on which of her outrageous remarks you read or quote.
    She needs to be forced to withdraw before it even comes to hearings. And never, never back down in fear of being called a racist but leftists who are threatening us not to tell the truth about this poor excuse for an American or we'll be sorry.
    What is her race ? I never did see or hear that. anyone know what her race is please let the rest of us know. Thanks
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    Re: W.H. to Sotomayor critics: Be 'careful'

    You can choose to believe what other say or write or you can watch and listen to her racists remarks coming out of her her own mouth and believe what you hear and see. There is plenty there.
    Sotomayor racist remarks - Google Videos

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    Re: W.H. to Sotomayor critics: Be 'careful'

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Then why do we need a court system with multiple levels of appeals? If every judge interprets the law the same, why is it so rare that SCOTUS rules 9-0? You are not even close to being intellectually honest here.
    How wrong you are, let us count the ways....

    Lawyers and jurists argue various merits of the law, and dissect the law to ensure that all relevant matters are fairly and thoroughly explored. There are intellectually valid differences in what weights are accorded the various relevant matters, and it is fitting that a multiple of jurists discuss such differences to achieve a balanced result.

    The distinction is that the relevant matters are: the facts of the case, the applicable law, and the Constitution. The ethnicity and the gender of the jurist is not nor should ever be a relevant matter in deciding a court case.

    Sotomayor argues otherwise, and in that she is categorically wrong; in that, she is fundamentally at odds with over two centuries of American jurisprudence.

    Pretending that her stance is anything but a gross jurisprudential error is itself the epitome of intellectual dishonesty. It is the triumph of transitory identity politics over durable standards of judicial review. It is the rationalization of racism. It is nothing less than this. And it is wrong.

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    Re: W.H. to Sotomayor critics: Be 'careful'

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    You can choose to believe what other say or write or you can watch and listen to her racists remarks coming out of her her own mouth and believe what you hear and see. There is plenty there.
    Sotomayor racist remarks - Google Videos

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    You memtioned thsi "view of the Race which she is a member" so what is her race ????? I know what her other language besides English is but I never heard or read anywhere what her race was and since you mentioned a race I figured that you know. THANKS in advance for your answer !!
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