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    Re: What is objective ??

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Interesting that you don't actually use things IN the constitution, just what if's. And a silly finale at that.
    If have either have dificulting applying an example or just plain don't want that's ok. You have every right to interpret by closing to the example any way you wish tha is your right but you also have a right to be wrong and you do that very well. At least that is how I interpret your remarks.
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    Re: What is objective ??

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    You do realize the applicable Constitution is that of the United States of America and not the People's Republic of China, I hope?
    WTFAYTA or you either do get humor or do not like it or both!!
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    Re: W.H. to Sotomayor critics: Be 'careful'

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    for all the reprints of the WSJ story, I have yet to see who wrote "he is Latino". It seems to have been a nameless lobbyist, and as such, can safely be ignored.
    Do what? The special interest groups of the DNC wrote it, and the DNC followed it, b/c the DNC never allowed Estrada an up and down vote.

    Safely be ignored? Your kidding.

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    Re: W.H. to Sotomayor critics: Be 'careful'

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Sotomayor gives an annual speech on her latina vagina's superior decision making abilities over that of old white penises?
    I see this thread has now decended intot he the levels of juniior high or juniot low school after this post by S .A.
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    Re: W.H. to Sotomayor critics: Be 'careful'

    Quote Originally Posted by TheHat View Post
    Do what? The special interest groups of the DNC wrote it, and the DNC followed it, b/c the DNC never allowed Estrada an up and down vote.

    Safely be ignored? Your kidding.
    The special interest groups of the DNC?? Why don't you just say the Illuminati wrote it? This is the big hot button issue of the day, emailed to all rightwing lackeys across the country, and you CAN'T EVEN CITE WHO WROTE IT? I think that is hilarious.

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    Re: W.H. to Sotomayor critics: Be 'careful'

    Anyone hear of this story ? I heard ( looking for link) that some radio personality identified as a "conservative or a right winger " has complained on his his blog that Sotomayor was pronouncing her name "too SPANISH LIKE" and that casues us English speakers to have dificulties saying it that way. He wants her to pronounce her name more "English/American" like.

    That reminds me of that idiot Texas legislative woman d who said that Asians need to change heir names to American sounding names because Americans especially Texans have severe trouble pronouncing those Asian names.

    I thought that the lowest form of life on the air was Savage, VANITTY, AND Limbaugh but I am wrong there are more radio hosts with the IQ of bacteria.
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    Re: What is objective ??

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    WTFAYTA or you either do get humor or do not like it or both!!
    I like humor. I get humor. Have any humor to offer?

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    Re: W.H. to Sotomayor critics: Be 'careful'

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    In such a circumstance, she should. She should have said this:

    "I am a Latina--a woman of Puerto Rican origin. It has no bearing on how I interpret the law or how I decide cases."

    Anything beyond that is a deviation from sound jurisprudence.
    Thank you. Exactly right.

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    Re: W.H. to Sotomayor critics: Be 'careful'

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    That is a misrepresentation of her position. Have you read the whole speech? It's kinda interesting. Her argument as I read it is that, if you look at rulings, there is a difference based on race and gender, that therefore it is of value to have diversity and people of nonwhite male backgrounds in the courts.

    She also says quite clearly, and in fact in the paragraph right after the controversial comment from the speech, that white men are capable of making very wise decisions.
    What does this say to you:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/15/us...1&pagewanted=5
    I willingly accept that we who judge must not deny the differences resulting from experience and heritage but attempt, as the Supreme Court suggests, continuously to judge when those opinions, sympathies and prejudices are appropriate.
    When is it appropriate for a judge to have prejudices based on heritage? The answer, the ONLY answer, is NEVER.
    Last edited by talloulou; 05-29-09 at 03:22 AM.

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    Re: W.H. to Sotomayor critics: Be 'careful'

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    What does this say to you:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/15/us...1&pagewanted=5


    When is it appropriate for a judge to have prejudices based on heritage? The answer, the ONLY answer, is NEVER.
    I see it as her saying that the differences which arise due to race or gender, and which effect how judges rule, have to be constantly examined. No one, not you, nor I, nor any one else, can divorce ourselves from our upbringing, and it will, without question, have a bearing on how we interpret anything. The fact that you and I, who do have some actual similarities in our lives(born in the same country, of I suspect both having Caucasian parents, and so on...no need to go too far into the similarities, you should know what I mean) can agree on almost nothing, including the interpretation of written words, should show this.

    What I see her saying is that while these differences in interpretation are normal, they also have to be constantly examined, to be careful of them having a negative effect.

    Note that ethnic and gender differences are not the same thing as prejudices. It is one word of three she uses to describe these differences.

    Now, I am trying to understand what another person is saying in their words. I admit I could very well be wrong in how I am interpreting them, as I am trying to explain in other words. The only way to know for sure her thinking would be for her to answer that question, and I suspect she will be answering some questions on this speech before her confirmation hearings.

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