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    Re: Once Considered Unthinkable, U.S. Sales Tax Gets Fresh Look

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Ah yes, raise gas taxes so the poor would be hurt when filling up. Maybe you can force them to buy over priced priuses.
    What makes you think the poor can afford to buy gas now when food is already sky rocketing in prices? The argument of 'think of the poor' always seems to come from people who weren't poor for long. You do know that the poor will choose to eat before driving? Just like they'll choose to buy their kids school supplies before driving and doing a million other things before driving.
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    Re: Once Considered Unthinkable, U.S. Sales Tax Gets Fresh Look

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    What makes you think the poor can afford to buy gas now when food is already sky rocketing in prices? The argument of 'think of the poor' always seems to come from people who weren't poor for long. You do know that the poor will choose to eat before driving? Just like they'll choose to buy their kids school supplies before driving and doing a million other things before driving.
    I can barely afford the gas to go buy groceries...

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    Re: Once Considered Unthinkable, U.S. Sales Tax Gets Fresh Look

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    If it means the dismantling of the IRS, then I am all for a national sales tax.
    You'd still need an enforcement agency. Example, Chinatowns across America are notorious for tax evasion due to their cash sales that are not counted in the register. A sales tax system would still require partnership like tax returns to show the sales and thus the sales tax that should have been paid which can then be referenced to the amount actually paid. While that is still open to fraud, no enforcement agency is a honors system of paying sales taxes and last I checked, my fellow Americans are not the most honest people when it comes to paying their taxes. An honors system is asking Dracula to guard the blood bank. Furthermore, an enforcement agency could do simple audit procedures to red flag firms that are not paying their share by comparing them to known honest vendors in the same industry and area.
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    Re: Once Considered Unthinkable, U.S. Sales Tax Gets Fresh Look

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I wouldn't mind cutting payroll taxes by an equivalent amount, to offset the difficulty the poor would have affording gasoline. That's my biggest problem with the tax code, rather than the overall rate of taxation. It's not so much that people are taxed too much or too little (although I think we need to be taxed SLIGHTLY more overall)...it's that we tax the wrong things.

    Let's have less payroll taxes and more income taxes.
    Let's have less corporate taxes and more capital gains taxes.
    Let's have less general sales taxes (and no VAT tax) and more energy-specific sales taxes.
    Let's abolish the alternative minimum tax and simplify the entire tax code instead.
    Let's have fewer loopholes for employer-provided health care and more deductions for education expenses.


    Etc, etc.



    Or lets do a 15% flat tax for the feds, and a 3% for the states.


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    Re: Once Considered Unthinkable, U.S. Sales Tax Gets Fresh Look

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    What makes you think the poor can afford to buy gas now when food is already sky rocketing in prices? The argument of 'think of the poor' always seems to come from people who weren't poor for long. You do know that the poor will choose to eat before driving? Just like they'll choose to buy their kids school supplies before driving and doing a million other things before driving.



    I grew up in the Ironbound section of Newark, and the Lower East side of Manhattan in the 70's/80's, Joined the AF in the 90's, didn' get rich until this century. stop talking out of ignorance.



    If as you claimed based on thin air, that they can't afford gas now, tell me, how will raising taxes on gas not hurt them?
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    Re: Once Considered Unthinkable, U.S. Sales Tax Gets Fresh Look

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I can barely afford the gas to go buy groceries...



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    Do you see where I am going with this? It's not that you are too poor for gas, I bet, if you chose to answer these things, I could afford you some go juice right quick.
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    Re: Once Considered Unthinkable, U.S. Sales Tax Gets Fresh Look

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Call me crazy her, but wouldn't ya know... cutting spending be a better choice here?

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    Re: Once Considered Unthinkable, U.S. Sales Tax Gets Fresh Look

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
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    Do you see where I am going with this? It's not that you are too poor for gas, I bet, if you chose to answer these things, I could afford you some go juice right quick.

    The guy that fixes my AC is having rough with gas. Dallas covers a lot of square miles and he has to drive his truck all over.

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    Re: Once Considered Unthinkable, U.S. Sales Tax Gets Fresh Look

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    The guy that fixes my AC is having rough with gas. Dallas covers a lot of square miles and he has to drive his truck all over.




    He is doing it wrong. HVAC contracting is a lucrative industry.
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    Re: Once Considered Unthinkable, U.S. Sales Tax Gets Fresh Look

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    He is doing it wrong. HVAC contracting is a lucrative industry.
    It is more than gas people are putting off what should be done till later and the gas bill certainly doesn't help. I use to be a Kodak rep (I drove around training sales people about photography) for N Texas and when gas hit approx 3 bucks I quit be cause it just wasn't worth it anymore.

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