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    Re: Bush v. Gore lawyers take on gay marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    What I find most interesting about this is that both Ted Olson and David Boies are Republicans, or at least they were, I cannot say for sure that they have not changed party affiliation. This brings hope that some Republicans are beginning to practice what they preach and become more inclusive.
    FWIW, Boies is a democrat and has been for as long as I can remember.
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    Re: Bush v. Gore lawyers take on gay marriage ban

    I find it profoundly insulting that my personal life is subject to the debate of these dead people.
    And why does your tone suggest that you do not care about children?

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    Re: Bush v. Gore lawyers take on gay marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    FWIW, Boies is a democrat and has been for as long as I can remember.
    "When he enrolled at the University of Redlands and learned that classes consumed only 14 hours a week, Boies set out to fill the extra time. Although he was married with two children by the end of his sophomore year, he piled on more work (teaching journalism at a nearby mental hospital), then more fun (usually card playing) and more extracurriculars (including, George W. Bush would be surprised to learn, the presidency of the campus Young Republicans)."

    He must have changed his affiliation later to Democrat.

    TIME Pacific | "Get me Boies!" | December 25, 2000 | NO. 51

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    Re: Bush v. Gore lawyers take on gay marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    "When he enrolled at the University of Redlands and learned that classes consumed only 14 hours a week, Boies set out to fill the extra time. Although he was married with two children by the end of his sophomore year, he piled on more work (teaching journalism at a nearby mental hospital), then more fun (usually card playing) and more extracurriculars (including, George W. Bush would be surprised to learn, the presidency of the campus Young Republicans)."

    He must have changed his affiliation later to Democrat.

    TIME Pacific | "Get me Boies!" | December 25, 2000 | NO. 51

    (What is "FWIW"?)
    Huh, learn something new every day.

    "FWIW" = "For what it's worth"

    Best David Boies story I've ever heard:

    His firm has been working on this big ass case for a couple years and now they're finally getting ready to go to trial. It's in a district court down south, so the junior partner and associates on the case have spend the past month working 18 hour days and living in a hotel in the district. Nevertheless, the case is looking bleaker and bleaker as the trial date approaches. The day before the trial, they call up north to update Boies on the progress. Despite having little to nothing to do with the case to this point, Boies immediately flies into town, goes to the hotel, and commandeers a huge conference room. He turns to the junior associate on the case and says "Go get me a case of diet coke and two huge bags of pretzel twists. She brings them back to the conference room, he tells them all to go to sleep, and then closes the door behind them. They wake up the next morning, walk down to the conference room, and he's sitting in there next to a stack of documents, finishing the last of the pretzels and soda and looking chipper. He hands the junior associate the stack of documents and tells her "When I reach out my hand, you give me the piece of paper on top of the stack."

    They head to the courtroom, where he gets up and argues brilliantly for the next three hours. He does not stop even once to look at the documents, as he's already memorized everything and determined how he was going to use it. He just reaches behind him to take the next thing being handed to him, and then gives it to the witness. They win the case handily.


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    Re: Bush v. Gore lawyers take on gay marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by new coup for you View Post
    I find it profoundly insulting that my personal life is subject to the debate of these dead people.
    personal life?

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    Re: Bush v. Gore lawyers take on gay marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Huh, learn something new every day.

    "FWIW" = "For what it's worth"

    Best David Boies story I've ever heard:

    His firm has been working on this big ass case for a couple years and now they're finally getting ready to go to trial. It's in a district court down south, so the junior partner and associates on the case have spend the past month working 18 hour days and living in a hotel in the district. Nevertheless, the case is looking bleaker and bleaker as the trial date approaches. The day before the trial, they call up north to update Boies on the progress. Despite having little to nothing to do with the case to this point, Boies immediately flies into town, goes to the hotel, and commandeers a huge conference room. He turns to the junior associate on the case and says "Go get me a case of diet coke and two huge bags of pretzel twists. She brings them back to the conference room, he tells them all to go to sleep, and then closes the door behind them. They wake up the next morning, walk down to the conference room, and he's sitting in there next to a stack of documents, finishing the last of the pretzels and soda and looking chipper. He hands the junior associate the stack of documents and tells her "When I reach out my hand, you give me the piece of paper on top of the stack."

    They head to the courtroom, where he gets up and argues brilliantly for the next three hours. He does not stop even once to look at the documents, as he's already memorized everything and determined how he was going to use it. He just reaches behind him to take the next thing being handed to him, and then gives it to the witness. They win the case handily.


    Badass.
    Awesome story, gotta love people who can do things like that.
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    Re: Bush v. Gore lawyers take on gay marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    personal life?
    Who he marries is none of your business. Or mine. Or Jerry's or Benjamin Franklins or George Washington's or Ron Paul's.
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    Re: Bush v. Gore lawyers take on gay marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    The 18,000 legally married same-sex couples changes game somewhat.

    There's now two distinct classes--same-sex married, same-sex unmarried. Only one enjoys the rights and privileges of married couples.
    You didn't think the court was going to just roll over on this completely did you?

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    Don't the same-sex unmarried have the right to ask for equal protection under the U.S. Constitution?
    The already have it under existing Domestic Partnership law.

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    This is a very interesting developement. I hope you've been doing your homework and reading up on civil union rights vs. married rights.
    I sure have, I've been quoting it to people like yourself who, no insult intended, don't seem to know yourself what the law actually is.

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    Re: Bush v. Gore lawyers take on gay marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by new coup for you View Post
    I find it profoundly insulting that my personal life is subject to the debate of these dead people.
    No one is discussing New_Coup_For_You's personal life.

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    Re: Bush v. Gore lawyers take on gay marriage ban

    I agree with those who see this as presumptuous. I do not think this case can be won in declaring Prop 8 unconstitutional. Though I am pro-GM, I have always purported that going the equality route is not the way and a loser of a position. If the pro-GM movement would focus on family, health, and childrenm they would have already won this thing. Heck, I've posted enough evidence at DP for them to win.

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