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    Re: Conservative Groups Fault Health-Care Agenda

    Thank you for the links.

    So, no one knows any details about a health care plan yet. It's a mystery, so mysterious that some democrats are complaining about the lack of information. And yet we have conservative groups running commercials suggesting that the health care plan is going to be like Canada's or the UK's, and presenting doom and gloom scenarios. Got to love it when groups don't even make a basic effort at any sort of honesty.

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    Re: Conservative Groups Fault Health-Care Agenda

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Thank you for the links.

    So, no one knows any details about a health care plan yet. It's a mystery, so mysterious that some democrats are complaining about the lack of information. And yet we have conservative groups running commercials suggesting that the health care plan is going to be like Canada's or the UK's, and presenting doom and gloom scenarios. Got to love it when groups don't even make a basic effort at any sort of honesty.
    I think that they have a general idea.

    What most of the stories I have read have said that it is Obama's health care plan or something alluding that point.

    For the most part you're right.

    Them being secretive undermines the whole notion of open and honest government. I cannot in any way support something that is being drawn up in such a way.
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    Re: Conservative Groups Fault Health-Care Agenda

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Oh man. This has debacle written all over it.

    People are beyond ignorant as to the whole notion. First of all, UHC is kind of like a color wheel in that there are so many options in how it can be done that making blanket statements about UHC pretty much, in my book renders that person stupid. Like saying that all breed of dogs are identical (no, you're dumb). If you want a real understanding of some of the finer details, go consult the health care provider analysts and administrators of companies like Blue Shield.

    I can see these ads playing to the stereotype without ever going into what UHC could potentially be, what specifics it could offer, and how it could under some plans be better than what we got now. Of course any counter ads are likely to just screw it up as well.

    A UHC that reforms the insurance industry will almost certainly be better than what we got now. That part of healthcare makes money by denying service to those who pay for its services. That to me and others here has got to go. But on the other hand, a UK type system that is super bloated would be worse.
    While there may be hundreds of different ways to implement the program, some good and some bad, I have faith that the plan that is eventually selected will be a ****ty one.
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    Re: Conservative Groups Fault Health-Care Agenda

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    While there may be hundreds of different ways to implement the program, some good and some bad, I have faith that the plan that is eventually selected will be a ****ty one.
    Most likely. God knows the insurance industry has much of Congress in their pocket book. Without reform to that aspect, we're going to get crap and lots of it.
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    Re: Conservative Groups Fault Health-Care Agenda

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Conservative Groups Fault Health-Care Agenda - WSJ.com

    A back door to near complete government health care.

    Max Baucus is a damn liar, he knows this is a trojan horse.
    I am completely closed to the topic of allowing a national health care system until the Government correct SSI and keeps it stable for 15 years (my standard time frame when looking at financial investments).

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