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    Re: California Supreme Court Upholds Proposition 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    We're not allowed to respect women any more, Feminism put an end to that.
    Not sure exactly what to say to that. Most of the guys I work with (and the boyfriend) don't seem to have issues with respecting me.

    I'm a good employee, a good mom, and I try generally to behave ethically. If a man wants to hold the door open for me, I'm certainly not going to punch him in the balls for it. Though, I don't need it or expect it.

    I think there are some angry feminists out there, but I don't closely identify with them. Though, I will say that I think that it has gotten harder for men than it used to be to respond to what women say they want.

    We do, as women, engage in a lot of double-speak. We say we want to be equals, but then we want men to pay for everything and expect them to financially support us.

    I just want to be allowed to be me. I like working, I'm good at it, and I think the work I do benefits society. I like being with my kids, I'm a good mom, and I think that raising them is some of the most important work I will do. in my life.

    I have nice tits, and I'm not afraid to use them, but I'm also not promiscuous. But, I wouldn't allow a man to tell me how to dress, just as I wouldn't try to exert that kind of control over him.

    I take care of my home and do all the assorted tasks associated with it, including stripping and refinishing my deck last weekend, and all the yard work.

    I am not particularly hung up on male/female roles, couples should delegate tasks based upon talents, versus gender. I'm pretty egalitarian, and not much of a princess.

    I'd be happy to turn over the lawn-mowing responsibilities to someone, though.
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    Re: California Supreme Court Upholds Proposition 8

    I guess that's the difference between male and female tits. Women get out of citations with them, whereas men do the exact opposite.

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    Re: California Supreme Court Upholds Proposition 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    I guess that's the difference between male and female tits. Women get out of citations with them, whereas men do the exact opposite.
    I might resemble that comment.

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    Re: California Supreme Court Upholds Proposition 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    We're not allowed to respect women any more, Feminism put an end to that.

    If we open a door, we're saying you're weaker than we are. If we verbal object you to dressing sexually, we're oppressing your free speech. If we try to protect our own ****ing children, we're violating your right to bodily sovereignty.
    You are always welcome to open the door for me. I never minded that. In my mind that was a sign of respect and not a sign of I am better than you are from men. I think that area we women really screwed up.
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    Re: California Supreme Court Upholds Proposition 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Inferno View Post
    You are always welcome to open the door for me. I never minded that. In my mind that was a sign of respect and not a sign of I am better than you are from men. I think that area we women really screwed up.
    I have never come across any female who goes nuts at men holding the door to them. I always smile and say thank you to any male who opens the door.
    I personally think that there are some roles women and men are more suited for, that does not mean both genders aren't equal just that .... we're not the same.


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    Re: California Supreme Court Upholds Proposition 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    I have never come across any female who goes nuts at men holding the door to them. I always smile and say thank you to any male who opens the door.
    I personally think that there are some roles women and men are more suited for, that does not mean both genders aren't equal just that .... we're not the same.
    We are not anywhere close to the same. I agree. Women and men are equal as humanity. We should have the same opportunities and options. Neither side should feel less because of gender.

    I don't think I have rune into many women that had a problem with the doors being opened or even a chair being pulled out. I think it was just an excuse by some males to avoid doing the nice things that once were common place.
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    Re: California Supreme Court Upholds Proposition 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I might resemble that comment.


    I hope I didn't miss some subtlety; I hate that.

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    Re: California Supreme Court Upholds Proposition 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Inferno View Post
    We are not anywhere close to the same. I agree. Women and men are equal as humanity. We should have the same opportunities and options. Neither side should feel less because of gender.

    I don't think I have rune into many women that had a problem with the doors being opened or even a chair being pulled out. I think it was just an excuse by some males to avoid doing the nice things that once were common place.
    Agreed.
    I don't understand feminism in the 21st century in the west. I can understand and encourage it in ME or Africa where women are still treated as lesser beings but in the west where the law is applied equally and women can vote and have a say over their own bodies. Isn't feminism useless?


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