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    Re: California Supreme Court Upholds Proposition 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Answer my question first
    Shrug, okay. Girls grow up surrounded at all times by the idea that they're supposed to grow up and get married to a perfect man on a splendid white horse, and to not do so makes them failures. This is seen in the toys they are given to play with to the roles they play on tv every day. So they get married, often quite young, when their own ideas of self and purpose are still pretty half baked. "Unfortunately," they grow, and realize they didn't have to accept that future written for them while they were children, and seek something that satisfies their roles as human beings instead. Also unfortunately, they were also raised with the idea that they need to have children, complicating things all the more.

    It's why I think most people would do well to get married after they're 30. They'd have a much clearer idea of who they are and what they'd need in a partner.

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    Re: California Supreme Court Upholds Proposition 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    You gave the impression that he was honoring his vows.
    That's interesting. I didn't see that insinuation whatsoever in her post. Why did you see that?

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    Re: California Supreme Court Upholds Proposition 8

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    More often than not, yes. But since gays can raise children and single parents can raise children, what does this have to do with gay marriage?
    It wasn't my question, so I have no idea. People ask questions sometimes and I have no problem giving an answer. There's no harm.

    My question regarding divorce relates to how the divorce rate is used by pro-gm to show that heteros don't really care about things like 'the sanctity of marriage'.

    But, did you know that women initiate the vast majority of divorces?

    It's not a "heteros don't care" issue, it's a "woman aren't happy" issue. Married women typically are significantly less satisfied than married men.

    So, why should I believe the typical lesbian couple will be any more satisfied?

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    Re: California Supreme Court Upholds Proposition 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    That's interesting. I didn't see that insinuation whatsoever in her post. Why did you see that?
    He offered the toast.

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    Re: California Supreme Court Upholds Proposition 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Shrug, okay. Girls grow up surrounded at all times by the idea that they're supposed to grow up and get married to a perfect man on a splendid white horse, and to not do so makes them failures. This is seen in the toys they are given to play with to the roles they play on tv every day. So they get married, often quite young, when their own ideas of self and purpose are still pretty half baked. "Unfortunately," they grow, and realize they didn't have to accept that future written for them while they were children, and seek something that satisfies their roles as human beings instead. Also unfortunately, they were also raised with the idea that they need to have children, complicating things all the more.

    It's why I think most people would do well to get married after they're 30. They'd have a much clearer idea of who they are and what they'd need in a partner.
    I'm completely on board with you here.

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    Re: California Supreme Court Upholds Proposition 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    My question regarding divorce relates to how the divorce rate is used by pro-gm to show that heteros don't really care about things like 'the sanctity of marriage'.
    Alright, first of all, when people get divorced, and the rates are known to have increased, does that show a respect for the sanctity of marriage?

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    Re: California Supreme Court Upholds Proposition 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    You gave the impression that he was honoring his vows.
    No, dear. You assumed. You know what they say about assuming, right?

    I'm able to joke about it, now. But back in those days, it was not particularly funny.

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    Re: California Supreme Court Upholds Proposition 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    He offered the toast.
    He offered the toast to ten more years OF THE SAME. I'm not much of a cryer. So, the fact that I burst into tears at the idea is saying something serious, no matter my joking tone.

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    Re: California Supreme Court Upholds Proposition 8

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Alright, first of all, when people get divorced, and the rates are known to have increased, does that show a respect for the sanctity of marriage?
    My point was that it's not a 'sanctity of marriage' issue at all.

    It's a "women aren't happy with marriage" issue.

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    Re: California Supreme Court Upholds Proposition 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    He offered the toast to ten more years OF THE SAME. I'm not much of a cryer. So, the fact that I burst into tears at the idea is saying something serious, no matter my joking tone.
    Do you know why he suddenly changed when he married you?

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