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    Re: California Supreme Court Upholds Proposition 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    As many as necessary until their agenda is passed.
    If its put back on the ballot and it passes, isn't that the "will of the people"?
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: California Supreme Court Upholds Proposition 8

    Then, one April day we heard it
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    And the world that gives us pain
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    And the war we've fought to win
    I promise you, we will win
    If not tomorrow
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    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: California Supreme Court Upholds Proposition 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    You mean "more" changes in the constitution.
    yea, that's what I meant.

    But either way, will this fight ever end?

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    Re: California Supreme Court Upholds Proposition 8

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
    yea, that's what I meant.

    But either way, will this fight ever end?

    Its already ending....gay marriage is inevitable. Just like the history of all discrimination, as the public enlightens....bigotry and discrimination fail.
    The younger generation is overwhelmingly in favor of gay marriage and older generations are being educated on the issue as well. The end of the issue is probably only a few years away.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: California Supreme Court Upholds Proposition 8

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
    yea, that's what I meant.

    But either way, will this fight ever end?
    Did it end with desegregation?

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    Re: California Supreme Court Upholds Proposition 8

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    If its put back on the ballot and it passes, isn't that the "will of the people"?
    You're trying to apply someone else's argument to me as though I'm some cookie-cutter Conservative.

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    Re: California Supreme Court Upholds Proposition 8

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Then, one April day we heard it
    Thunder rumbling
    One man speaking
    Thousands singing ..
    Someday we'll be free
    I promise you, we'll be free
    If not tomorrow
    Then the day after that
    And the candles in our hands
    Will illuminate this land
    If not tomorrow
    Then the day after that
    And the world that gives us pain
    That fills our lives with fear
    On the day after that
    Will disappear
    And the war we've fought to win
    I promise you, we will win
    If not tomorrow
    Then the day after that
    Or the day after that
    Wow, bro if you think marriage is about being free....man you don't understand the issue at all.

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    Re: California Supreme Court Upholds Proposition 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    They just did.
    And I guess we'll be getting it right, also, in 2010.

    Jerry, this is not the right decision...devaluing a class of citizens based on the moral disapproval of their private lives is so far from a conservative principle I am surprised you aren't gnashing your teeth over it.

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    Re: California Supreme Court Upholds Proposition 8

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Well....if Constitutional rights are subject to a simple majority vote, then it should be on the ballot every year in order to reflect what the will of the majority is.

    Views of gay marriage are changing rapidly. The younger generation overwhelmingly approves of gay marriage. It is inevitable.
    There is no constitutional right specifically to gay marriage. The only court cases heard by the Supreme Court that signifies a constitutional right to marriage refers to that of a traditional male and female marriage. The Supreme Court has turned down any case thus far to my knowledge dealing with same sex marriage. As such, until its either:

    1) In the constitution
    2) Decided so by the Supreme Court

    Same Sex Marriage is not a constitutional right. It is your opinion that it is, but it is not a fact it is. The only FACT is that marriage as defined between a man and a woman is a constitutional fact. This remains the case until such time as one of the above two things happen. Until then, its just your OPINION that it is a constitutional right.

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    Re: California Supreme Court Upholds Proposition 8

    It's only a matter of time before the militant homosexuals go on a rampage which is not that unusual for leftists. Burn a few Mormon churches perhaps. Things like that.

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