Quote:Originally Posted by Truth Detector
In other words, Obama once again attempts to take BOTH sides in an issue and his loyal fans (that would be YOU) willingly swallow the swill he dishes out for no other reason than of him being a Liberal Democrat.
If Obama thinks that his views should not be forced upon others, then why even express a position?
If Obama believes that his views should not be forced on others, then why have a “green” initiative or demand that car manufacturers adhere to higher gas mileage standards?
If Obama believes that his views should not be forced on others, why then sign spending bills that will force me and my children to pay higher taxes in the future to pay for them when I do not agree with them?
Your arguments, as usual, are on a very slippery slope.
That is similar to saying you are against terrorism, but think people have the right to support it.
IMO--it's a sad day in CA history. But the reality is, there are some very densely populated counties in this state that are far removed, literally and figuratively, from the great UC campuses.
I always thought of marriage as a formal commitment between a man and a woman who wished to start a family, usually conducted by a minister under the eyes of God and witnesses. When did it become a "right?"
Oh yeah, when gay rights activists wallowing in emotional hysterics and hyperbole decided it should be and determined ALL society should now accept THEIR definition of marriage!
Each one of the founding fathers was a special interest group.
Your definition was even wrong when it comes to the legal definition. So how the hell are you going to sit there chortling to yourself with undeserved smug satisfaction when you couldn't even get it right?Oh yeah, when gay rights activists wallowing in emotional hysterics and hyperbole decided it should be and determined ALL society should now accept THEIR definition of marriage!
No one is advocating forcing your minister to perform a marriage for anyone he doesn't want to.Originally Posted by Truth Detector
Yeah, equal rights are really a matter of "emotional hysterics and hyperbole."Originally Posted by Truth Detector
You don't have to accept their definition of marriage. You don't even have to talk to them if you don't want to. All they're asking is for you to leave them the **** alone and give them the same rights that everyone else has.
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This is what they court found in [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_re_Marriage_Cases"]In re Marriage Cases[/ame]
I am waiting to get a summary of today's ruling to see how they seemed to come full circle. They made it an equal protection issue last year, but then the constitutional amendment gets around that... I guess.In re Marriage Cases (2008) 43 Cal.4th 757 [76 Cal.Rptr.3d 683, 183 P.3d 384], is a California Supreme Court case with the dual holding that "statutes that treat persons differently because of their sexual orientation should be subjected to strict scrutiny" and the existing "California legislative and initiative measures limiting marriage to opposite-sex couples violate the state constitutional rights of same-sex couples and may not be used to preclude same-sex couples from marrying."
On May 15, 2008, the court ruled in a 4–3 decision that laws directed at gays and lesbians are subject to strict judicial scrutiny and that marriage is a fundamental right under Article 1, Section 7 of the California Constitution, thereby holding unconstitutional the previously existing statutory ban on same-sex marriage embodied in two statutes, one enacted by the Legislature in 1977, and the other through the initiative process in 2000 (Proposition 22). The Court's ruling also established that any law discriminating on the basis of sexual orientation is constitutionally suspect, making California the first state in the United States to set such a strict standard.
Thanks LDS church--but from now on, can we just let California's decide what's best for us w/o a media blitz of fear ads.... please, and thank you.