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    Re: California Supreme Court Upholds Proposition 8

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    I'm sorry, but who defined marriage as ONLY between a man and woman in the first place? I don't see anyone re-defining anything. I do, however, see people trying to give it a far more specific definition so that it excludes certain people.
    I am always amused by your questioning the OBVIOUS in an effort to avoid any substance. Marriage has been defined over centuries by the church as being between a MAN and a WOMAN for the express purpose of creating life/children.

    It is the primary purpose of marriage; if you do not plan to ever have a child, why bother with all the complications and commitment marriage demands?

    Now bring in Gay rights activists who decided to demand a re-definition of what marriage means for political reasons. What are those reasons you may ask? The right to adopt children comes to mind which raises a whole new debate which is not for this thread.

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    Re: California Supreme Court Upholds Proposition 8

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Sorry....you are on the losing side of history here. Attitudes about gay marriage are shifting rapidly. The younger generation overwhelmingly favors gay marriage. Its only a matter of time. Your state bans are simply a desperate attempt by the older generation to hang on to the last bastions of discrimination. Gay marriage is going to happen....even in your lifetime Navy.


    Wht are more and more states voting by huge margins to ban it then?
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    Re: California Supreme Court Upholds Proposition 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    I am always amused by your questioning the OBVIOUS in an effort to avoid any substance. Marriage has been defined over centuries by the church as being between a MAN and a WOMAN for the express purpose of creating life/children.

    It is the primary purpose of marriage; if you do not plan to ever have a child, why bother with all the complications and commitment marriage demands?

    Now bring in Gay rights activists who decided to demand a re-definition of what marriage means for political reasons. What are those reasons you may ask? The right to adopt children comes to mind which raises a whole new debate which is not for this thread.

    and "marriage" had been defined as only between same races for a long time....so what's your point?
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    Re: California Supreme Court Upholds Proposition 8

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    and gay marriage will be the will of the people in the next election. Get used to it, whether you like it or not.
    That only can happen with activist judges............
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    Re: California Supreme Court Upholds Proposition 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Wht are more and more states voting by huge margins to ban it then?
    They're not.....those margins are getting smaller and smaller as the older generation dies off and the younger generations mature.
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    Re: California Supreme Court Upholds Proposition 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    That only can happen with activist judges............
    Wrong.....changing demographics and a better educated population.
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    Re: California Supreme Court Upholds Proposition 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Only in your dreams............More and more states are voting to ban gay marriage evry year by huge majorities...........
    In Texas only 13 % showed up when the gay marrige amendment was on the ballot. I know I did not vote for the amendment. And I would not call 13% a huge majority either. I would call it apathetic.

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    Re: California Supreme Court Upholds Proposition 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    I am always amused by your questioning the OBVIOUS in an effort to avoid any substance. Marriage has been defined over centuries by the church as being between a MAN and a WOMAN for the express purpose of creating life/children.
    Well, thankfully the church doesn't dictate legislation. And what church specifically are you referring to? Which church invented marriage in the first place?

    It is the primary purpose of marriage; if you do not plan to ever have a child, why bother with all the complications and commitment marriage demands?
    Says who? Again, show me proof your claims.

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    Re: California Supreme Court Upholds Proposition 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    I am always amused by your questioning the OBVIOUS in an effort to avoid any substance. Marriage has been defined over centuries by the church as being between a MAN and a WOMAN for the express purpose of creating life/children.

    It is the primary purpose of marriage; if you do not plan to ever have a child, why bother with all the complications and commitment marriage demands?

    Now bring in Gay rights activists who decided to demand a re-definition of what marriage means for political reasons. What are those reasons you may ask? The right to adopt children comes to mind which raises a whole new debate which is not for this thread.
    Uh...you're a little late on that one. we can already adopt children in most states.

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    Re: California Supreme Court Upholds Proposition 8

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Well it's a good thing I didn't make anything resembling an argument that marriage devalues gays, isn't it?
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    And I guess we'll be getting it right, also, in 2010.

    Jerry, this is not the right decision...devaluing a class of citizens based on the moral disapproval of their private lives is so far from a conservative principle I am surprised you aren't gnashing your teeth over it.



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