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Obama to pick Sotomayer for Supreme Court

Reverend_Hellh0und said:
It's not about what Rush thinks. Its a fact. She has been turned over, many many many times.
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What shocks me is that you take what Rush says on his biased, one-sided radio show as 100% fact. I find that damn scary.

Rush is a partisan hack who had a serious drug abuse problem, severe issues with his weight, has said racist remarks on his show (ask Donovan McNabb) and who considers himself a comedian...not a commentator, not a pundit.

Rush is a godsend to us Liberals. I say keep him chattering, the more the merrier. He's your own worst enemy...he does more for the Democrats in terms of building unity than almost anyone else does...
 
WillRockwell said:
On what do you base this opinion?
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The fact that she was dumb enough to talk about her job as a policy maker and then laugh it off as she remembered verbally and out loud, "Oh yeah I shouldn't say that..."

Also, I think as a woman she should could have made a case for what women bring to the court, how they balance the court, etc without putting her foot in her mouth and suggesting an ethnic vagina makes a better judge than a white penis.
 
Re: Conservative groups criticize Sotomayor pick

Harry Guerrilla said:
I know what you said and what you were implying.

In the past the south was not a great place for blacks but today it is totally different. I'm pretty sure you are one of those New England bigots who denigrates anything that emerges from the south. I've met your kind before and I am happy to show you how wrong you are.

I don't care which political party blacks are involved in but I will tell you that black culture is mostly responsible for their failings today and not the white man.

Herman Cain, owned.
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Sorry but I live in Manhattan (not New England) and have owned a house in rural southeastern Virginia for almost 30 years. In that part of the south to this day the little towns are segregated, either all white or all black. You're entitled to your opinion but that's all it is, an opinion, and I never said the South, I said Republican strongholds which also implies Nebraska, Kansas, Wyoming, Montana....for example...and can you share with me how Blacks have fared traditionally in these heavily majority white states?

You're the one who defensively attacked me about my ignorance of the south when in fact you're the one with a chip on his shoulder. You consider me to be out of touch and I consider you to be way out of touch....like most Republicans when it comes to social issues and race which is why the GOP is in a coma and is a party that is at least 85% (probably higher) white.

Choosing a Hispanic women raised in a modest, urban environment is brilliant. When the Supremes deliberate having all sorts of backgrounds (aka diversity) means that multiple points of view will be considered.
 
We can argue all day about this lady's record and background. However this is what bothers me.

Opening Arguments - Obama's Empathy Standard Drawing Heat
“We need somebody who’s got the heart, the empathy, to recognize what it’s like to be a young teenage mom,’’ then-candidate Obama said in a widely quoted speech to Planned Parenthood in 2007. "The empathy to understand what it's like to be poor, or African American, or gay, or disabled, or old. And that's the criteria by which I'm going to be selecting my judges."
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Regardless of what we feel her record shows. Nobama picked her because of his above belief. Correct me if I'm wrong. Obama feels our courts shouldn't be colorblind. Your race, social, sexual and financial status define the justice you get. This is just wrong. The above should not matter with regard to the law.

I'm all for common sense in our justice system. What I"m not for is different rules and justice for different groups. Both Obama and Sotomayer seem to suggest that white males can't be impartial. So it takes an impartial Latino women to set them straight. I usually don't care about the racial hatred toward white males. I mean, you learn to live with it. However this time it really bothers me. Individuals can hate me because I'm a white male. But the court system ought not care what my race and gender are.
 
Family Guy said:
Rush is a partisan hack who had a serious drug abuse problem, severe issues with his weight, has said racist remarks on his show (ask Donovan McNabb) and who considers himself a comedian...not a commentator,
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you can't ask for better ironic material then this.

Rush points out facts often, the fallacy is taking his views in regards to those facts and assuming THAT is 100% true. He's not a bad source to get some information that you wish to look at deeper, but beyond that its foolhearty as he is at the heart simply an entertainer.

But I forgot, fat people can't get facts straight. Thanks for that wonderful insight family guy. :roll:
 
talloulou said:
Sotomayer is not incredibly bright. I think they could have found a more leftist appointee who was incredibly bright, but she's just not.
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Please tell me how you know how bright she is? What about going to Princeton and then Yale Law (all on scholarships) and being the Editor of the Yale Law Journal certanly supports your contention that she is "not incredibly bright" because we all know that you're just average if you go to Princeton and Yale (below average if your last name is Bush :lol: ).

Why not simply state that as a loyal member of the party of NO you're simply doing what all loyal party members do in 2009 (say no to anything that Obama does no matter what it is)?

To suggest that you know how bright she is and what she thinks about being a Supreme is just.....
 
Family Guy said:
Please tell me how you know how bright she is? What about going to Princeton and then Yale Law (all on scholarships) and being the Editor of the Yale Law Journal certanly supports your contention that she is "not incredibly bright" because we all know that you're just average if you go to Princeton and Yale (below average if your last name is Bush :lol: ).

Why not simply state that as a loyal member of the party of NO you're simply doing what all loyal party members do in 2009 (say no to anything that Obama does no matter what it is)?

To suggest that you know how bright she is and what she thinks about being a Supreme is just.....
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Because I voted for Obama so clearly I'm NOT a loyal party member. Next.
 
talloulou said:
Because I voted for Obama so clearly I'm NOT a loyal party member. Next.
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You're also not very conservative if you voted for Obama. Good lord, you voted for the man, now you have a problem with his SC Nominee? Hey, you and every other person that said "Yeah McCain isn't great, but this Obama guy, well I'll pull the lever for him" Woah, what his record of piss poor character judgment led him to choose this woman for the Supreme Court... that's wrong."


You got NO right complaining about her, cause YOU helped get her there.
 
Zyphlin said:
you can't ask for better ironic material then this.

Rush points out facts often, the fallacy is taking his views in regards to those facts and assuming THAT is 100% true. He's not a bad source to get some information that you wish to look at deeper, but beyond that its foolhearty as he is at the heart simply an entertainer.

But I forgot, fat people can't get facts straight. Thanks for that wonderful insight family guy. :roll:
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I agree with you! The poster that I was replying to made it sound (IMHO) that Rush's words were gospel, all of them, all of the time, that any "fact" that he spits out is not to be questioned....

Rush can be right, of course...even a broken clock is right twice a day...
 
talloulou said:
Because I voted for Obama so clearly I'm NOT a loyal party member. Next.
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You didn't share with us how you know how bright she is??? Where are you getting your facts that allows you to make a conclusive statement about someone you had never heard of 8 hours ago?
 
MrVicchio said:
You're also not very conservative if you voted for Obama. Good lord, you voted for the man, now you have a problem with his SC Nominee? Hey, you and every other person that said "Yeah McCain isn't great, but this Obama guy, well I'll pull the lever for him" Woah, what his record of piss poor character judgment led him to choose this woman for the Supreme Court... that's wrong."


You got NO right complaining about her, cause YOU helped get her there.
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I have every right to complain as long and as loud as I want. It seemed apparent during the election we were hellbent in driving off a cliff. I preferred having a Dem do that than a Republican. If we were gonna adopt some socialist policies either way then we might as well have a guy with socialist leanings in charge.

My party deserved to loose.
 
talloulou said:
The fact that she was dumb enough to talk about her job as a policy maker and then laugh it off as she remembered verbally and out loud, "Oh yeah I shouldn't say that..."

Also, I think as a woman she should could have made a case for what women bring to the court, how they balance the court, etc without putting her foot in her mouth and suggesting an ethnic vagina makes a better judge than a white penis.
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I find your reasons to be trivial and partisan, clearly demonstrating a total refusal to participate in an honest discussion of Sotomayer's abilities.
 
MrVicchio said:
You're also not very conservative if you voted for Obama. Good lord, you voted for the man, now you have a problem with his SC Nominee? Hey, you and every other person that said "Yeah McCain isn't great, but this Obama guy, well I'll pull the lever for him" Woah, what his record of piss poor character judgment led him to choose this woman for the Supreme Court... that's wrong."


You got NO right complaining about her, cause YOU helped get her there.
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I find it laughable that the guy with Sarah Palin in his avatar is questioning Sotomayer's ablility and qualifications.
 
Family Guy said:
Please tell me how you know how bright she is? What about going to Princeton and then Yale Law (all on scholarships) and being the Editor of the Yale Law Journal certanly supports your contention that she is "not incredibly bright" because we all know that you're just average if you go to Princeton and Yale (below average if your last name is Bush :lol: ).

Why not simply state that as a loyal member of the party of NO you're simply doing what all loyal party members do in 2009 (say no to anything that Obama does no matter what it is)?

To suggest that you know how bright she is and what she thinks about being a Supreme is just.....
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So now you're running downstream against all the Democrat salmon who claimed Bush was an idiot? I mean, you're saying that this broad went to Yale, so she must be smart.
 
Joe1991 said:
Is that why Reagan put the first Italian American to put the court? (Scalia), or Bush 41 the first African American? (Thomas).
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Thurgood Marshall was the first Black Justice on SCOTUS, not Clarence Thomas.
 
WI Crippler said:
I'm sure the Senate will vote her in. There doesn't seem to be any gross miscalculation in regards to her qualifications. I'm just a little offended by the notion there is this need to have a minority on the bench, just because we need to have a minority on the bench. As if a ruling coming down from a female or hispanic lends more credibility to the decision than if it came down from a male WASP.
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Obama was elected because he's black, so why shouldn't he be picking judges based on irrelevancies not related to the job they're supposed to be doing? The people who voted for him don't expect him to apply any Constitutional standards to judges, merely political standards.
 
Scarecrow Akhbar said:
So now you're running downstream against all the Democrat salmon who claimed Bush was an idiot? I mean, you're saying that this broad went to Yale, so she must be smart.
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Uh no, she was summa cum laude at Princeton...which means she was SMARTEST in her class. You know Princeton, where Einstein lived? And by the way, anyone who denies Bush was an idiot.....is an idiot.
 
Sonia Sotomayor wrote for the Second Circuit Court of Appeals in the ruling that upheld President Bush's restriction on funding to foreign countries if those countries promoted abortion as a method of birth control.

"At issue in this case is the soJ called 'Mexico City Policy' of the United States government, whereby foreign nongovernmental organizations ('NGOs') receiving U.S. government funds must agree to a provision called the 'Standard Clause,' which prohibits the organizations from engaging in activities that promote abortion (also referred to as the 'challenged restrictions')."

The plaintiff was The Center for Reproductive Law & Policy and the defendant was the Bush Administration.

"Plaintiffs' due process claim is therefore dismissed for lack of prudential standing."

"Plaintiffs' equal protection challenge is thus without merit."

"First Amendment claims are therefore dismissed for failure to state a claim."

CENTER FOR REPRODUCTIVE LAW AND POLICY v. BUSH - 304 F.3d 183 :: PreCYdent Search Engine

This is a far cry from Roe v. Wade, but it shows she is not in favor of federal funding of foreign abortions when law says it cannot be done.

I wish I had time to read more rulings from her right now, I will try to later and post them here. :)
 
Family Guy said:
What shocks me is that you take what Rush says on his biased, one-sided radio show as 100% fact. I find that damn scary.
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So she hasn't been turned over multiple times?

i await, your evidence.

Rush is a partisan hack who had a serious drug abuse problem, severe issues with his weight, has said racist remarks on his show (ask Donovan McNabb) and who considers himself a comedian...not a commentator, not a pundit.
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uhm typical whining sniveling liberal bloviating, you can't attack the man on the facts so you regurgitate daily kos vitriol.


expected and dismissed.


Rush is a godsend to us Liberals. I say keep him chattering, the more the merrier. He's your own worst enemy...he does more for the Democrats in terms of building unity than almost anyone else does...
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:lol: you are so right, conservatives should be more like liberals, yeah that makes sense. :roll:
 
Family Guy said:
I agree with you! The poster that I was replying to made it sound (IMHO) that Rush's words were gospel, all of them, all of the time, that any "fact" that he spits out is not to be questioned....

Rush can be right, of course...even a broken clock is right twice a day...
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This is a lie on your part. you pouted, stuck your fingers in your ear and screached about rush's weight.


We are still waiting for you to cash that check your mouth just wrote.


Show us how rush wa wrong about her turnovers., :2wave:
 
She could be the dumbest brick on earth. Obama supporters will support her no matter what. So whatever on them.

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Pretty much every Obama appointee has been garbage/questionable at best and picked entirely for personal Obama political grandstanding.
Lookatmeism.

Look at this a women whose hispanic..neither criteria is worth a damn as a justice but its whats highlighted.

Least she doesn't appear on the surface to be a flaming idiot or extreme leftist like Obama but he chose her so she needs to be gone over with a microscope.
 
I have a problem with her decision on the CITY OF NEW HAVEN Connecticut VS White/Hispanis Firemen where she sided with the City to throw out legitimate competitive test scores becasue too few or no Blacks passed the test. That is my mind was an UNGOOD decision.

The other case was a freedom of speech case where she ruled with the school (or school board) against a kid who wrote some unflattering stuff about her school pricipal online. The school prevented the kid from participating in school activities etc Judge Soto ruled against the kid in a fragerant violation of freedom of speech and in favor of the surpression of freedom of speech by the school. Another UNGOOD decision.

yet unlike the judge I have an open mind and am willing to listen why she should be nominated.!!!!
 
Scarecrow Akhbar said:
Obama was elected because he's black, so why shouldn't he be picking judges based on irrelevancies not related to the job they're supposed to be doing? The people who voted for him don't expect him to apply any Constitutional standards to judges, merely political standards.
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That pretty much goes in line with how the Bush II did things so what is new ??
 
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