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    Re: Obama to pick Sotomayer for Supreme Court

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    I haven't been able to find the text of any Code VII law. Whose law is it, the citites? The firefighters ?

    I want to read the text of the law.
    found it. It's a federal civil rights law

    The Equal Pay Act of 1963

    Now to read through it to find the claim they assert...

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    Re: Obama to pick Sotomayer for Supreme Court

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Sotomayer's experience exceeds that of any other justice currently sitting on the court. Her competence has been established. Your remarks about "female hispanic judge" are racist without excuse.
    How was I being racist ????? I put quotes around the phrase = '"female hispanic judge" because I was quoting another poster. Yet she has been described or identified just as that "female hispanic judge". I would like to know exactly what was "racist" about my post !!!
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    Re: Obama to pick Sotomayer for Supreme Court

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    found it. It's a federal civil rights law

    The Equal Pay Act of 1963

    Now to read through it to find the claim they assert...
    Yup, the light came on and I figured it out too. Will let you read it, I am burnt out on dry legal documents.

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    Re: Obama to pick Sotomayer for Supreme Court

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    found it. It's a federal civil rights law

    The Equal Pay Act of 1963

    Now to read through it to find the claim they assert...
    Yes. Definitely a bad ruling. Nowhere does Title VII say anything other than tests may not be designed with racial bias. It does not say anywhere that if no blacks pass a test then it should be automatically considered that the test was unfair and tossed out. Did I miss something in the reading. Their finding that the test was racist and their methods of justifying that finding where absolutely judicial activism.

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    Re: Obama to pick Sotomayer for Supreme Court

    Breakdown of pertinent parts:

    Notwithstanding any other provision of this subchapter, it shall not be an unlawful employment practice for an employer to apply different standards of compensation, or different terms, conditions, or privileges of employment pursuant to a bona fide seniority or merit system, or a system which measures earnings by quantity or quality of production or to employees who work in different locations, provided that such differences are not the result of an intention to discriminate because of race, color, religion, sex, or national origin, nor shall it be an unlawful employment practice for an employer to give and to act upon the results of any professionally developed ability test provided that such test, its administration or action upon the results is not designed, intended or used to discriminate because of race, color, religion, sex or national origin.
    In fact this tidbit:

    (l) Prohibition of discriminatory use of test scores

    It shall be an unlawful employment practice for a respondent, in connection with the selection or referral of applicants or candidates for employment or promotion, to adjust the scores of, use different cutoff scores for, or otherwise alter the results of, employment related tests on the basis of race, color, religion, sex, or national origin.
    is exactly what the court did. The court agreed since no blacks passed (skin color) the results would be altered, ie tossing the test in the garbage.

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    Re: Obama to pick Sotomayer for Supreme Court

    From where I sit (with admittedly no legal knowledge) this was a complete crackpot ruling.

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    Re: Obama to pick Sotomayer for Supreme Court

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Sotomayer's experience exceeds that of any other justice currently sitting on the court. Her competence has been established. Your remarks about "female hispanic judge" are racist without excuse.
    I don't really think that her experience actually "exceeds" that of any other justice currently sitting on the court. What I would say is that her experience are diferent and possibly broader in that she came from almost "poor" roots and definately a minority group. The closest that any other judge currently singing with the Supremes who came from a minority and "poor" roots is Thomas. As far as acedemically and intellectually she is probably at best slightly above average but most likely average. I do not beleive that she will be any shining star just as Thomas will never be a shinning star.

    My opinion of her and Justice Thomas is not racist or anti-Peurto Rican it is based upon what I have observed.
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    Re: Obama to pick Sotomayer for Supreme Court

    Reading, I am going to have to bounce back and forth between ruling and this I think. Give me a few minutes, and I don't think I am going to get my housework done before hockey game starts...

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    Re: Obama to pick Sotomayer for Supreme Court

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Sotomayer's experience exceeds that of any other justice currently sitting on the court. Her competence has been established.
    Vinny Testaverde has a greater wealth of experience in the NFL than Peyton Manning. Does that mean he's the better man to lead your team to victory?
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    Re: Obama to pick Sotomayer for Supreme Court

    Talloulou, go to: http://www.adversity.net/newhavenfd/...2009-28-06.pdf scroll down to page 18(it's a PDF, so you should see page numbers), III Discussion A. Title VII. Scan through and read it. It refers to a number of other cases and "McDonnell Douglas three-prong burden-shifting test". See what you can make of it please when you can.

    By the way, Title VII is one part of 4 that the firefighters filed suit with, and the first that the judge dealt with.

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