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    Re: Obama to pick Sotomayer for Supreme Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    come now, if you want me to do all this work for you, wouldn't it be fair that the otherside at least answer my question 1st?


    what context was she taken out of?
    I am not a side, I am a person. No one in this whole thread that I have seen has objected to more than one ruling of hers, and the only person who has actually commented on the legal aspect of the ruling suggests that from a legal position, she might even be right in her ruling...ie she might have preferred to rule another way, but the law prevented it.

    So come on now, we are talking about a nominee to the supreme court. What rulings has she made that you disagree with, and why? If you object to her, you must have a reason, and I would hope for your sake that your objections actually have to do with her body of work.

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    Re: Obama to pick Sotomayer for Supreme Court

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    Re: Obama to pick Sotomayer for Supreme Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I am not a side, I am a person. No one in this whole thread that I have seen has objected to more than one ruling of hers, and the only person who has actually commented on the legal aspect of the ruling suggests that from a legal position, she might even be right in her ruling...ie she might have preferred to rule another way, but the law prevented it.

    So come on now, we are talking about a nominee to the supreme court. What rulings has she made that you disagree with, and why? If you object to her, you must have a reason, and I would hope for your sake that your objections actually have to do with her body of work.



    Let me take you at you word, and put this forth...


    If we all can only name one ruling, Is she qualified to be on SCOTUS?



    I fully object to her because she was picked not by the character of the person, but the ethnicity and sex.

    I fully object to her who all but bragged about legislating from the bench.


    I fully object to he way they swept new haven under the rug.



    That's enough for me.



    oh and I objected to McCain for much less.
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    Re: Obama to pick Sotomayer for Supreme Court

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    Well when she had to pick a quote for her yearbook she went with the guy who ran multiple times on the socialist ticket. If that doesn't clue folks in, nothing well.



    Really?


    Redress, this is another reason.




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    Re: Obama to pick Sotomayer for Supreme Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Some of her decisions overuled by the Supreme Court:

    SECURITIES FRAUD RULING OVERTURNED BY SUPREME COURT

    *Sotomayor wrote the majority decision in 2005 in a securities fraud case involving Merrill Lynch that later was overturned by the Supreme Court in a victory for corporate defendants.

    The purported securities fraud class-action case had been brought by a former Merrill Lynch broker who accused the investment firm of fraudulently manipulating stock prices.

    Sotomayor reinstated the case, after it had been dismissed by a lower court, ruling that it was not barred by a federal law which makes it harder to bring such lawsuits.

    The Supreme Court in 2006 unanimously disagreed with her ruling and held such suits were prohibited by federal law.

    ENVIRONMENTAL LAW INVOLVING POWER PLANTS

    * Sotomayor wrote a major environmental law ruling that the Bush administration Environmental Protection Agency could not weigh the costs of introducing technology used in power plant cooling structures against the benefits of protecting aquatic life.

    Her ruling was reversed by the Supreme Court on April 1 by a 6-3 vote in a defeat for environmentalists and a victory for the EPA and energy companies that operate power plants.

    WINE SHIPMENTS

    * Sotomayor was part of a three-judge panel that upheld New York's law barring direct shipments of out-of-state wine to in-state consumers.

    The Supreme Court in 2005 struck down such laws, arguing they unconstitutionally limited interstate commerce.

    COPYRIGHT CASE

    * Freelance journalists had sued the New York Times Company for copyright infringement because the Times included in an electronic database the work of the authors it had published.

    Sotomayor as a trial judge ruled that the publisher had the right to license the work of the freelancers, in a decision that limited the copyright rights of the authors.

    Her decision was reversed on appeal, and the Supreme Court in 2001 upheld the reversal.



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    Re: Obama to pick Sotomayer for Supreme Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Let me take you at you word, and put this forth...


    If we all can only name one ruling, Is she qualified to be on SCOTUS?
    If anyone can look at her carreer, and only find one, or even a few rulings they disagreed with, I would call that a strength. She has been a judge for 20 years. I can't go 20 days without doing something some one disagrees with.

    I fully object to her because she was picked not by the character of the person, but the ethnicity and sex.
    What does her sex and race have to do with her qualifications? You are making an assumption that her character was not an important factor.

    I fully object to her who all but bragged about legislating from the bench.
    You know the context that what she said was made under(that is, what was she talking about that the quote came from), and that most lawyers seem to agree with her comment(at least those that post here)?


    I fully object to he way they swept new haven under the rug.
    Swept New Haven under the rug how? I knew about it before I ever heard of her, or this is how I heard of her first, though the name did not register. I am not following what you are saying here.



    That's enough for me.



    oh and I objected to McCain for much less.
    Well, at least you are consistent.
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    Re: Obama to pick Sotomayer for Supreme Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Redress. These too.
    Do you know anything about those rulings? If not, how can you use them to judge her. Hell, you might in looking into them, agree with her and disagree with SCOTUS. Jumping on any bandwagon that makes your point without analyzing it is silly.

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    Re: Obama to pick Sotomayer for Supreme Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    If anyone can look at her carreer, and only find one, or even a few rulings they disagreed with, I would call that a strength. She has been a judge for 20 years. I can't go 20 days without ding something some one disagrees with.

    See the ruling TD posted. We can go over those if you would like.


    What does her sex and race have to do with her qualifications? You are making an assumption that her character was not an important factor.

    It should have been nothing. Obama sought out a female hispanic. a bigoted one at that.



    You know the context that what she said was made under(that is, what was she talking about that the quote came from), and that most lawyers seem to agree with her comment(at least those that post here)?

    most lawyers? proof?

    Anyway, lets add in her racist comment that she is better than a white man at being a judge (obvious paraphrase on my part)






    Swept New Haven under the rug how? I knew about it before I ever heard of her, or this is how I heard of her first, though the name did not register. I am not following what you are saying here.


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    What was her ruling?




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    Re: Obama to pick Sotomayer for Supreme Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Do you know anything about those rulings? If not, how can you use them to judge her. Hell, you might in looking into them, agree with her and disagree with SCOTUS. Jumping on any bandwagon that makes your point without analyzing it is silly.



    meh I am starting to look into them.... Thus far I fully agree with all but the 1st one. I am looking for more info on that 1st one.


    Many of these rulings were indeed legislating from the bench.


    The interstate commerce one violated the USC and was rightfully overturned for example.
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    Re: Obama to pick Sotomayer for Supreme Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    See the ruling TD posted. We can go over those if you would like.
    See my post in relation to that. You have probably already replied to it, and I will get to that one in a couple, if I don't run out of time and have to do actual work.


    It should have been nothing. Obama sought out a female hispanic. a bigoted one at that.
    Proof that President Obama sought out a Hispanic female?


    most lawyers? proof?
    Note the qualifier that I added, that post here. I know of 2 that post here, or at least I think 2, that being Aps and RightinNYC, both of whom think the comments are not a big deal.

    Anyway, lets add in her racist comment that she is better than a white man at being a judge (obvious paraphrase on my part)
    I am not even going to try and defend her comment on that subject. She will have to handle that all on her own.

    I know what her ruling was. I am asking about your comment that it was "swept under the table". I do not understand that part.




    It's the fiber.
    This is why I enjoy chatting with you, you always make me laugh, in a good way.

    meh I am starting to look into them.... Thus far I fully agree with all but the 1st one. I am looking for more info on that 1st one.


    Many of these rulings were indeed legislating from the bench.


    The interstate commerce one violated the USC and was rightfully overturned for example.
    I was right, you had responded already, and based on my limited knowledge, I agree that the interstate commerce one looks shakey, but I am definatly not a lawyer, and I do understand that sometimes the law is complex.

    Did you remember seeing a thread about illegal aliens and identity theft, where SCOTUS ruled with the illegal aliens, and it looked really bad, right up till it got looked at deeper, and it turned out the problem was with how the law was worded?
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