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    Re: Obama to pick Sotomayer for Supreme Court

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    The video was cut off before her entire statement was completed.
    What say you?!!


    You mean... They misrepresented her views in order to discredit her?!


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    I assume that if they had some criticisms of substance they would just put those out.

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    Re: Obama to pick Sotomayer for Supreme Court

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    It BEATS ME how anyone could listen to a woman laugh at her own audacity of admitting the inadmissible and apologize, justify, or excuse in any way the statement that she immediately all but admits there is no excuse for saying literally seconds after saying it.

    And no, that is NOT how the judicial system works.
    Actually, it is. Appeals court decisions, unlike lower trial court decisions, are binding precedent. Other courts in that circuit must, from that point forward, follow the appellate court's guidance in similar cases, regardless of whether the trial judge believes that the case should be decided differently.

    So, if an appeals court makes a ruling, the other courts in that circuit have to take that ruling into consideration in future decisions. If that isn't setting "policy," then I don't know what is.

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    Re: Obama to pick Sotomayer for Supreme Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Birdzeye View Post
    So, if an appeals court makes a ruling, the other courts in that circuit have to take that ruling into consideration in future decisions. If that isn't setting "policy," then I don't know what is.
    So then, why her 'oh ****' reaction?

    The truth about it all is in her own reaction.

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    Re: Obama to pick Sotomayer for Supreme Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Fallacy: Appeal to authority.


    Come on aps, I am sure you know plenty idiot lawyers...
    ?? Huh? I don't understand what you're saying.

    I apply federal statutes to a set of facts on a daily basis. I see what happens when cases get appealed to the appellate body, who, if you can believe it, make policy based on its interpretation of the statute. Even the dumb lawyers that I work with know this.

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    Re: Obama to pick Sotomayer for Supreme Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Felicity View Post
    Obviously SHE knew it was wrong.
    Because she knows that the Second Circuit isn't the court of last resort.

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    Re: Obama to pick Sotomayer for Supreme Court

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    It BEATS ME how anyone could listen to a woman laugh at her own audacity of admitting the inadmissible and apologize, justify, or excuse in any way the statement that she immediately all but admits there is no excuse for saying literally seconds after saying it.

    And no, that is NOT how the judicial system works.
    You have no idea what you're talking about. Sorry.

    Just to add. My husband and I did not speak of this nomination all day yesterday. He got home from work and we started watching Hardball. When he heard the quote you all are going nuts over and Pat Buchanan's same talking points as talloulou, he said, "WTF?" He is a trial attorney, and also has a full understanding of how appellate courts can set policy. He often deals with appeals from the DC Circuit. So not having discussed this, we BOTH came to the same conclusion.
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    Re: Obama to pick Sotomayer for Supreme Court

    I would like to make a comment on the New Haven decision. At first blush, I thought it was judicial activism, but after reading on the case, I am not so sure. Rather than dictating quotas to the city of New Haven, Sotomayor was instead was taking a position that the City's jurisdiction was such that the Federal government's intervention would be unconstitutional. It was the city that had made the original decision, and Sotomayor ruled against those challenging that decision. Not sure that it was the right decision, as it allowed the city to set quotas, which IMHO is a Constitutional violation, but she seemed to be deciding on the basis of settled law, in that appellants did not have a valid Title VII claim, and was not creating law. That, of course, is not judicial activism, but I still believe that it was a wrong decision.

    Also, Sotomayor does not seem to be making decisions based on color. In Norville v. Staten Island University Hospital, she ruled against a black disabled woman who claimed that white people were given preferential treatment. In Williams v. R H Donnelly and Co, she ruled against a black man claiming racial discrimination.
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    Re: Obama to pick Sotomayer for Supreme Court

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    You have no idea what you're talking about. Sorry.
    Then neither does she since she balked immediately after saying it, tried to take it back emphatically.

    But whatever. I guess for some it's easy to straddle two viewpoints simultaneously. Either she's wrong having said it or she was wrong rather hysterically trying to bite it back. How can she be right on both counts is beyond me.

    But again, please please please let's talk about her college yearbook where she quotes a famous socialist.

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    Re: Obama to pick Sotomayer for Supreme Court

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    Obama to pick Sotomayor for Supreme Court - White House- msnbc.com

    I don't know much about her, but according to the article she is experienced enough for the role. They also bring up an interesting tidbit....

    Thoughts?
    Her taped comments regarding the role of the appellate courts as being a place where POLICY is made are enough to disqualify her in my opinion.

    Appellate and Supreme Court Justices should not be in the business of making "POLICY." There role is to properly interpret the laws of the land and the Constitution without prejudice or empathy.

    Obama's message by selecting one of the most Liberal nominees he could find to those on the other side of the aisle basically undo the rhetoric he spewed as a candidate suggesting that he wanted to WORK with BOTH sides in a bi-partisan way.

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiAnWLUMmYg]YouTube - sonia sotomayor says courts make policy[/ame]

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    Re: Obama to pick Sotomayer for Supreme Court

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    Better a centrist than a huge liberal.
    The notion that this lady is a Centrist and NOT a HUGE Liberal make me laugh.

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