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    Re: Obama to pick Sotomayer for Supreme Court

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    I'm curious. Are there any other attorneys on this message board who disagree with what Sotomayor said regarding making policy? If so, explain to me why her words were NOT correct. Thank you.

    For those commenting on that language she used, if you're not an attorney, I find your argument to be a complete waste of time.
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    Re: Obama to pick Sotomayer for Supreme Court

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    I'm curious. Are there any other attorneys on this message board who disagree with what Sotomayor said regarding making policy? If so, explain to me why her words were NOT correct. Thank you.
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    Obviously SHE knew it was wrong.

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    Re: Obama to pick Sotomayer for Supreme Court

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    I'm curious. Are there any other attorneys on this message board who disagree with what Sotomayor said regarding making policy? If so, explain to me why her words were NOT correct. Thank you.

    For those commenting on that language she used, if you're not an attorney, I find your argument to be a complete waste of time.


    I'm curious about this, too! After listening and watching the tape several times, I wonder why she did an immediate backpedal as soon as she said the "making policy" remark.

    I'm no lawyer but isn't she supposed to make a ruling based on her interpretation of the law? If she's trying to make policy, then it might explain some of her actions thus far.

    The confirmation hearings will, no doubt, shed some light on the issue!
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    Re: Obama to pick Sotomayer for Supreme Court

    Here is the problem I have with this video -

    1) What was shown was only part of her statement, and it was cherry picked for political purposes. It was a dishonest thing to do, as her ENTIRE statement paints a much different picture. Right after the video cuts off is where she finishes her statement, saying that this is not the way she judges a case.

    2) The way this video is presented reminds me of something that happened right here at Debate Politics, when one of my own statements was cherry picked. I had said in a post that a certain person in the government, that supported torture, needed to be tortured, and added that I would not torture anybody, even a scumbag like that. A member named Stinger then quoted me, leaving out the last part of my statement, and was telling everybody that I support torture. This video is so dishonestly similar to what happened to me that I believe Stinger made this video. LOL.

    3) If you want to know whether she would be an activist judge or not, do not look at dishonestly made videos, but look at the cases themselves, that she has made decisions on.
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    Re: Obama to pick Sotomayer for Supreme Court

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    I would take a guess most judges feel that way. They have the power and they know it, they just haven't got caught on camera saying it.

    Absolutely not. Many if not most judges understand their desires, needs, wants, and idealisms are irrelevant and thus they are bound and constrained by the current laws that are on the books.

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    Re: Obama to pick Sotomayer for Supreme Court

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Here is the problem I have with this video -

    1) What was shown was only part of her statement, and it was cherry picked for political purposes. It was a dishonest thing to do, as her ENTIRE statement paints a much different picture. Right after the video cuts off is where she finishes her statement, saying that this is not the way she judges a case.

    2) The way this video is presented reminds me of something that happened right here at Debate Politics, when one of my own statements was cherry picked. I had said in a post that a certain person in the government, that supported torture, needed to be tortured, and added that I would not torture anybody, even a scumbag like that. A member named Stinger then quoted me, leaving out the last part of my statement, and was telling everybody that I support torture. This video is so dishonestly similar to what happened to me that I believe Stinger made this video. LOL.

    3) If you want to know whether she would be an activist judge or not, do not look at dishonestly made videos, but look at the cases themselves, that she has made decisions on.
    That video was as clear as day. Next up is her quoting of Norman Thomas in her college yearbook.

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    Re: Obama to pick Sotomayer for Supreme Court

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    That video was as clear as day. Next up is her quoting of Norman Thomas in her college yearbook.
    The video was cut off before her entire statement was completed.
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    Re: Obama to pick Sotomayer for Supreme Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Triad View Post
    Dunno if you can call them rulings but her position on the CT firefighters
    (# Ricci v. DeStefano. In this 2008 case, Sotomayor participated in a one-page decision that allowed the City of New Haven, Connecticut to scrap the results of a promotion test for the city's firefighters because no African-Americans passed the test. In April 2009, the Supreme Court said that it would review the Second Circuit's decision.)

    ....and her general written/expressed views on what the courts are.
    Her social views are questionable as well.


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    Okay, so that's one decision. I haven't read it, but on the surface, I would tend to agree. Bad decision.

    Anything, else... Oh, I see... in "general" meaning you agree with talking points put out by the GOP.

    Well, bully for you!

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    Re: Obama to pick Sotomayer for Supreme Court

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Here is the problem I have with this video -

    1) What was shown was only part of her statement, and it was cherry picked for political purposes. It was a dishonest thing to do, as her ENTIRE statement paints a much different picture. Right after the video cuts off is where she finishes her statement, saying that this is not the way she judges a case.

    2) The way this video is presented reminds me of something that happened right here at Debate Politics, when one of my own statements was cherry picked. I had said in a post that a certain person in the government, that supported torture, needed to be tortured, and added that I would not torture anybody, even a scumbag like that. A member named Stinger then quoted me, leaving out the last part of my statement, and was telling everybody that I support torture. This video is so dishonestly similar to what happened to me that I believe Stinger made this video. LOL.

    3) If you want to know whether she would be an activist judge or not, do not look at dishonestly made videos, but look at the cases themselves, that she has made decisions on.
    I agree with you. Her comments in the video came across to me as a description of how the judicial system works. Her comment on making "policy" reflected what the appeals court's job is, namely, to interpret the law and rule on its constitutionality. It beats me how anybody can interpret what she said as advocating "judicial activism," aka, making rulings displeasing to conservatives.

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    Re: Obama to pick Sotomayer for Supreme Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Birdzeye View Post
    I agree with you. Her comments in the video came across to me as a description of how the judicial system works. Her comment on making "policy" reflected what the appeals court's job is, namely, to interpret the law and rule on its constitutionality. It beats me how anybody can interpret what she said as advocating "judicial activism," aka, making rulings displeasing to conservatives.
    It BEATS ME how anyone could listen to a woman laugh at her own audacity of admitting the inadmissible and apologize, justify, or excuse in any way the statement that she immediately all but admits there is no excuse for saying literally seconds after saying it.

    And no, that is NOT how the judicial system works.

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