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    Re: Obama to pick Sotomayer for Supreme Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    I'm not weeding through all of the posts here, but I will add the following. If you're against her because she leans left (so some say, but I have no idea if it's true or not), why is that? The last two nominees (both appointed by Bush) are right leaning. Do you not want a balance or do you think that right is the only way?
    I fully expect a more leftist leaning judge. I even expected a minority and a woman based on knowing how Obama loves to please. I just don't particularly like this woman based on her weak opinion in the firefighter case and her pronouncement that policy making is a matter of course.

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    Re: Obama to pick Sotomayer for Supreme Court

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    Just to point out Spaniards and Portuguese consider themselves white, its not just perception. If you call them Hispanic they get pissed.
    And Hispanic people are either White, Native American or a combination of White and Native American.

    Its retarded.
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    Re: Obama to pick Sotomayer for Supreme Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    I found this on the Guardian website [It is a left leaning paper] and figured it is worth a read.

    Obama's supreme court pick | Dylan Loewe | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk


    The Guardian takes the view that this is done on more political reasons to basically cause the republicans to lose the hispanic vote if they draw it out or increase loyalty to democrats
    I am sure that is a consideration, but it's not the only qualifier...ie, having a hispanic and a female nominee is a plus politically, but only if she can make it through the process. Having a hispanic and a female nominee also helps in terms of having a diverse makeup on the court, which I find to be a positive. Assigning a single motive to this pick is I think oversimplifying.

    I am entertained at how, as soon as I saw who the pick was, I knew exactly how our republican and right wing friends where going to react. Hell, they have been telling us for awhile now, laying the groundwork for their complaints. That is about as far is things will go, complaining, as unless something is dug up on her new, she will almost certainly be confirmed.

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    Re: Obama to pick Sotomayer for Supreme Court

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    How can you stand your own ignorant hypocrisy? Here I am bringing new facts to light and you resist it, yet you stand on a soap box and rail against one-sided coverage of a subject.

    You bring facts from one who cherry-picks from the whole story. If you brought complete facts then I would not say a word. If it were Keith Oberman, I would rail the same. I have said I do not like some of her record, and thanked you for the other facts you have brought, but Rush does not tell both sides.

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    Re: Obama to pick Sotomayer for Supreme Court

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    If a male judge alluded to the notion that he was a better judge for having a penis all hell would break loose.
    But my penis is my source of power?!?!
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    Re: Obama to pick Sotomayer for Supreme Court

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    Oh brother. I think she understands that her answer needed to be more nuanced. Maybe because I am a lawyer, I understand this better. I dunno. But I am stunned by the number of people who are hysterical about this. I dont' know what laws you all think are so clear that a court never has to really think about how to apply the law to a set of facts.
    Nuance is important in judicial opinions. She seems to have an issue with that on a larger scope than just this one particular incidence.

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    Re: Obama to pick Sotomayer for Supreme Court

    She's been smacked down by appellate courts and the Supreme Court, says Rush, and that bodes ill for her.

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    Re: Obama to pick Sotomayer for Supreme Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    But my penis is my source of power?!?!
    Maybe so but you are not allowed to announce it as such. A white man would be crucified for saying, "I have a dick and I'm white and thus I will be a better judge."

    Positively crucified.

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    Re: Obama to pick Sotomayer for Supreme Court

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    I fully expect a more leftist leaning judge. I even expected a minority and a woman based on knowing how Obama loves to please. I just don't particularly like this woman based on her weak opinion in the firefighter case and her pronouncement that policy making is a matter of course.
    Please answer this question.

    Here is our Fourth Amendment:

    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

    FindLaw: U.S. Constitution: Fourth Amendment
    Can you provide me the definition of what "probable cause" is? Is it defined in the Fourth Amendment? No? The Supreme Court has made rulings regarding what constitutes probable cause. Each time they make a ruling, it sets policy. The same goes for Circuit Court decisions that (1) are not appealed to the Supreme Court or (2) are denied cert by the Supreme Court.

    This business of claiming that courts don't set policy is beyond my comprehension. Really.

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    Re: Obama to pick Sotomayer for Supreme Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I am sure that is a consideration, but it's not the only qualifier...ie, having a hispanic and a female nominee is a plus politically, but only if she can make it through the process. Having a hispanic and a female nominee also helps in terms of having a diverse makeup on the court, which I find to be a positive. Assigning a single motive to this pick is I think oversimplifying.

    I am entertained at how, as soon as I saw who the pick was, I knew exactly how our republican and right wing friends where going to react. Hell, they have been telling us for awhile now, laying the groundwork for their complaints. That is about as far is things will go, complaining, as unless something is dug up on her new, she will almost certainly be confirmed.
    Well to me, i don't care how representative judges or politicans are. As long as they can do their job, their race or gender means little to me but i know race issues in US differ to here because of its history.

    I'm just waiting to see how the republicans react. They will have to tread carefully imo.
    Politicans are after votes and winning elections, and alienating the largest [and still growing] voting bloc in US will not be very clever will it?


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