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    Key Democrat warns against 'activist' Obama court nominee

    Looks like that, whoever is nominated for the Supreme Court, it had better not be a judge who legislates rather than interprets the law. Democrat Ben Nelson will help make sure of that.

    "I don't care whether they're liberal or conservative," Nelson told Fox News Sunday in an interview. "I just want to make sure they're not activist. I don't want an activist on the bench."


    "I think that's the test -- will they be an activist or not?" Nelson said.
    I believe that Nelson has nailed the issue right on the head. Yes, Obama is in power, so we can be sure that his picks are not going to be Conservatives. OK, that is fine. Obama is President, and the Democrats control Congress. They get their pick for SCOTUS....... However, I commend some of the Democrats who are willing to cross the aisle to the Republican side if Obama's choice is an activist judge. Filibusters are for preventing a "tyranny of the majority", and they are a good thing.


    Which brings me to the nuclear option that the Bush administration had threatened to use. The Republican mantra just a few years ago was that judges deserved "an up or down vote", and that mantra was wrong on so many levels. I do NOT believe that the president has the right to an up or down vote on judges. I thought it wrong when Bush was in power, and I believe it to be wrong now. With use of the filibuster, judges who bend and warp the Constitution, along with American values, are prevented from being sworn in.


    So my question to Republicans is this - Do you believe in the nuclear option now? I sincerely hope you have changed your mind on this. The shoe is certainly on the other foot now, and I believe that John McCain had the vision and foresight to see what using the nuclear option could eventually lead to. While some may think McCain a traitor for forging a compromise that prevented the nuclear option from being used, I believe that McCain is an American hero for that very reason.


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    Re: Key Democrat warns against 'activist' Obama court nominee

    This rush of people commenting on what the nominee should be like is silly. Let's wait for a pick, and judge the pick. Congress's job is to approve or disparove of the pick, not tell the president what type person he should pick.

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    Re: Key Democrat warns against 'activist' Obama court nominee

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Looks like that, whoever is nominated for the Supreme Court, it had better not be a judge who legislates rather than interprets the law. Democrat Ben Nelson will help make sure of that.
    I'll give Nelson a +1 on that.


    I believe that Nelson has nailed the issue right on the head. Yes, Obama is in power, so we can be sure that his picks are not going to be Conservatives. OK, that is fine. Obama is President, and the Democrats control Congress. They get their pick for SCOTUS....... However, I commend some of the Democrats who are willing to cross the aisle to the Republican side if Obama's choice is an activist judge. Filibusters are for preventing a "tyranny of the majority", and they are a good thing.
    I agree if the fillibuster is used for actual concerns, not because of a desire to get a philosophical or partisan result.


    Which brings me to the nuclear option that the Bush administration had threatened to use. The Republican mantra just a few years ago was that judges deserved "an up or down vote", and that mantra was wrong on so many levels. I do NOT believe that the president has the right to an up or down vote on judges. I thought it wrong when Bush was in power, and I believe it to be wrong now. With use of the filibuster, judges who bend and warp the Constitution, along with American values, are prevented from being sworn in.
    I saw the democrat push as a partisan one, it could be a perspective thing, a couple of potential justices were screwed over, like Janice Rogers Brown, but, we did get two very good picks, so your point is valid.


    So my question to Republicans is this - Do you believe in the nuclear option now? I sincerely hope you have changed your mind on this. The shoe is certainly on the other foot now, and I believe that John McCain had the vision and foresight to see what using the nuclear option could eventually lead to. While some may think McCain a traitor for forging a compromise that prevented the nuclear option from being used, I believe that McCain is an American hero for that very reason.
    It's still on the table and fair game, so, we'll have to let things fall as they may.....for at least the next 1.5 years.
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    Re: Key Democrat warns against 'activist' Obama court nominee

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    This rush of people commenting on what the nominee should be like is silly. Let's wait for a pick, and judge the pick. Congress's job is to approve or disparove of the pick, not tell the president what type person he should pick.
    I see your point, but if it aids in the process of picking a justice and eliminates another contentious nomination process, maybe it isn't such a bad idea to give a preview of what the house is looking for and what the basic criteria for nomination would be.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Key Democrat warns against 'activist' Obama court nominee

    Nelson's a politician. We'll see what happens if Obama nominates an activist and see what Nelson does.
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    Re: Key Democrat warns against 'activist' Obama court nominee

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    So my question to Republicans is this - Do you believe in the nuclear option now? I sincerely hope you have changed your mind on this. The shoe is certainly on the other foot now, and I believe that John McCain had the vision and foresight to see what using the nuclear option could eventually lead to. While some may think McCain a traitor for forging a compromise that prevented the nuclear option from being used, I believe that McCain is an American hero for that very reason.
    I almost missed this part. Sorry about that. Why would the "nuclear option" not be legit? It's part of the rules of how the senate is run. I may not like it if republicans use it, but it is a legitimate tool.

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    Re: Key Democrat warns against 'activist' Obama court nominee

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    Nelson's a politician. We'll see what happens if Obama nominates an activist and see what Nelson does.
    Can a Democrat filibuster a democrat President and majority congress without getting some form of grief in return?


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    Re: Key Democrat warns against 'activist' Obama court nominee

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Can a Democrat filibuster a democrat President and majority congress without getting some form of grief in return?
    Theoretically, but since it will never happen, we'll never know.
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    Re: Key Democrat warns against 'activist' Obama court nominee

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    Theoretically, but since it will never happen, we'll never know.
    See, i find that amazing. I guess your politicans have more freedom.
    It would be unheard of over here, the whips keep the MPs in line. If a 3 line whip occurs, every party member votes with the Government.


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    Re: Key Democrat warns against 'activist' Obama court nominee

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Can a Democrat filibuster a democrat President and majority congress without getting some form of grief in return?
    Probably not, nor is he likely to. I see this as him talking tough to appeal to voters, but suspect he would fall in line in a hurry if President Obama needed him to. Could even be an effort at stealing republican thunder on this. Repubs have been out in force complaining about the potential that President Obama might pick some one objectionable, so Democrats send one of their own out to do the same, then have him praise the nominee, who is likely this week.

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