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    Re: Key Democrat warns against 'activist' Obama court nominee

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Wouldn't the real test be if he votes against his own party?
    We agree completely on this, as I suspect Dana does also. A politican who openly disagrees with his party without ulterior motives is certainly showing individuality and integrity... a rare comodity these days with politicians!
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    Re: Key Democrat warns against 'activist' Obama court nominee

    Which brings me to the nuclear option that the Bush administration had threatened to use. The Republican mantra just a few years ago was that judges deserved "an up or down vote", and that mantra was wrong on so many levels. I do NOT believe that the president has the right to an up or down vote on judges. I thought it wrong when Bush was in power, and I believe it to be wrong now. With use of the filibuster, judges who bend and warp the Constitution, along with American values, are prevented from being sworn in.


    So my question to Republicans is this - Do you believe in the nuclear option now? I sincerely hope you have changed your mind on this. The shoe is certainly on the other foot now, and I believe that John McCain had the vision and foresight to see what using the nuclear option could eventually lead to. While some may think McCain a traitor for forging a compromise that prevented the nuclear option from being used, I believe that McCain is an American hero for that very reason.
    I must say, I thought the nuclear option was a good idea...at the time.

    But that was because, at the time, I myself had too little foresight to see the consequences. I guess, this is one of the few times on this board that I will plainly say, my opinion was flat-out wrong, no bones about it.

    And all I can say now is, Thank GOD for McCain and the gang of 14.

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    Re: Key Democrat warns against 'activist' Obama court nominee

    Since Democrats have a majority and Republicans only 40 seats, why would there be a need for a nuclear option?
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    Re: Key Democrat warns against 'activist' Obama court nominee

    Quote Originally Posted by rebelbuc View Post
    It's interesting how we seemingly look for greener grass overseas on this issue. Not that I generally agree with UK politicians more or less than US's, but I occasionally hear and see a member (youtube of course) of Parliament who stands up against the odds and provides an impassioned statement that goes against the flow. Perhaps this is all within the same party and I dont' have the total view of UK politics. American politicians seem to me to be more likely today to change parties rather than be an individual within their existing party (i.e. Arlen Specter, (now D), Jim Jeffords (now D), etc.). The days of the Zell Millers (remained D, although outspoken conservative) seem to be long past!
    Yeah our politicans are outspoken but that is the way our Parliamentary system works. Question Time is designed to hone the skills of any future PM in debating.

    It's a shame they don't know when to zip it ...


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    Re: Key Democrat warns against 'activist' Obama court nominee

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Looks like that, whoever is nominated for the Supreme Court, it had better not be a judge who legislates rather than interprets the law. Democrat Ben Nelson will help make sure of that.


    I believe that Nelson has nailed the issue right on the head. Yes, Obama is in power, so we can be sure that his picks are not going to be Conservatives. OK, that is fine. Obama is President, and the Democrats control Congress. They get their pick for SCOTUS....... However, I commend some of the Democrats who are willing to cross the aisle to the Republican side if Obama's choice is an activist judge. Filibusters are for preventing a "tyranny of the majority", and they are a good thing.


    Which brings me to the nuclear option that the Bush administration had threatened to use. The Republican mantra just a few years ago was that judges deserved "an up or down vote", and that mantra was wrong on so many levels. I do NOT believe that the president has the right to an up or down vote on judges. I thought it wrong when Bush was in power, and I believe it to be wrong now. With use of the filibuster, judges who bend and warp the Constitution, along with American values, are prevented from being sworn in.


    So my question to Republicans is this - Do you believe in the nuclear option now? I sincerely hope you have changed your mind on this. The shoe is certainly on the other foot now, and I believe that John McCain had the vision and foresight to see what using the nuclear option could eventually lead to. While some may think McCain a traitor for forging a compromise that prevented the nuclear option from being used, I believe that McCain is an American hero for that very reason.


    Discussion, anyone?


    Article is here.
    Well I'll be damned.

    But what is "activist" to Ben Nelson?
    I guess we will have to wait and see.

    My guess is he won't live up to his rhetoric.

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    Re: Key Democrat warns against 'activist' Obama court nominee

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Since Democrats have a majority and Republicans only 40 seats, why would there be a need for a nuclear option?
    Because there are some dem senators (Ben Nelson comes to mind) who might break from the party and vote against the nominee.........
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    Re: Key Democrat warns against 'activist' Obama court nominee

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Looks like that, whoever is nominated for the Supreme Court, it had better not be a judge who legislates rather than interprets the law. Democrat Ben Nelson will help make sure of that.


    I believe that Nelson has nailed the issue right on the head. Yes, Obama is in power, so we can be sure that his picks are not going to be Conservatives. OK, that is fine. Obama is President, and the Democrats control Congress. They get their pick for SCOTUS....... However, I commend some of the Democrats who are willing to cross the aisle to the Republican side if Obama's choice is an activist judge. Filibusters are for preventing a "tyranny of the majority", and they are a good thing.


    Which brings me to the nuclear option that the Bush administration had threatened to use. The Republican mantra just a few years ago was that judges deserved "an up or down vote", and that mantra was wrong on so many levels. I do NOT believe that the president has the right to an up or down vote on judges. I thought it wrong when Bush was in power, and I believe it to be wrong now. With use of the filibuster, judges who bend and warp the Constitution, along with American values, are prevented from being sworn in.


    So my question to Republicans is this - Do you believe in the nuclear option now? I sincerely hope you have changed your mind on this. The shoe is certainly on the other foot now, and I believe that John McCain had the vision and foresight to see what using the nuclear option could eventually lead to. While some may think McCain a traitor for forging a compromise that prevented the nuclear option from being used, I believe that McCain is an American hero for that very reason.


    Discussion, anyone?


    Article is here.
    One prominent point; not one talking head , politician, no DP`s, absent this thread, is a doubt that she is an ACTIVIST JUDGE.

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