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    Re: Conservative radio host gets waterboarded, and lasts six seconds before.....

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    No one is proposing using EIT to determine whether a person has information to extract using EIT. That doesn't make sense and that is exactly how you responded to my post.

    Apparently you are lost. No one is arguing that EIT be used on someone who doesn't know anything. That is, there should be something akin to a warrant that allows EIT to be used.
    And if "someone" were, or did, proposing and arguing that EITs "be used on someone who doesn't know anything" and if those actions were carried out without a warrant would you say that was a crime?

    And if that is the case should those people be prosecuted?

    And then, if that is the case would you then admit that it was you who were lost?
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    Re: Conservative radio host gets waterboarded, and lasts six seconds before.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Grateful Heart View Post
    Just curious... are you happy we hanged Saddam for his crimes?

    Here is the problem I have with the execution of Saddam. This is a man who did a lot of horrible crimes, but what he was convicted of was of using Iraq's legal process and the courts to execute some people who had attempted to assassinate him. Some of the accused had actually been released and declared innocent, while those found guilty were executed. That sounds almost like a real legal process.

    This left open the ability of Sunnis to claim that he was wrongly prosecuted, even though he wasn't. Saddam should have been tried instead for gassing the Kurds, murdering thousands of Shiites after the Gulf War, or any number of monstrous things that he did. That way, the outcome would have left his supporters holding their dicks in their hands, and little else. Perhaps (and I admit that I am not sure, and is speculation on my part) this would have defanged his supporters a bit and resulted in fewer deaths among our troops as well.
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    Re: Conservative radio host gets waterboarded, and lasts six seconds before.....

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    And if "someone" were, or did, proposing and arguing that EITs "be used on someone who doesn't know anything" and if those actions were carried out without a warrant would you say that was a crime?
    In the future if due process is established for the use of EIT then yes. Its would be no different than a police officer holding someone without reason or using force without just cause.

    As for grandfathering in such punishment, I don't know. That will probably be on a case by case basis as the legality of EIT is still in question.

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    And if that is the case should those people be prosecuted?
    I'm advocating the establishment of principles, regulations, and accountability for the use of EIT such that such prosecutions can occur for violations.
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    Re: Conservative radio host gets waterboarded, and lasts six seconds before.....

    I can't believe this discredited story is still being debated. The Radio Equalizer: Brian Maloney: Chicago Radio Host's Waterboarding Stunt Backfires

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    Re: Conservative radio host gets waterboarded, and lasts six seconds before.....

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Most "combatants and terrorists" taken to places like Gitmo and Abu Ghraib turned out to be innocent, and not the "combatants and terrorists" they were accused of being, and have been released without charges. Does it sit well with you that you don't want innocent people to be alive?
    How many of them were waterboarded? That being the context of this thread and Jerry's statements, it's a relevant question.
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    Re: Conservative radio host gets waterboarded, and lasts six seconds before.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Lone Ranger View Post
    I can't believe this discredited story is still being debated. The Radio Equalizer: Brian Maloney: Chicago Radio Host's Waterboarding Stunt Backfires
    This is well beyond the original "Mancow waterboarding" story.
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    Re: Conservative radio host gets waterboarded, and lasts six seconds before.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Lone Ranger View Post
    I can't believe this discredited story is still being debated. The Radio Equalizer: Brian Maloney: Chicago Radio Host's Waterboarding Stunt Backfires
    I mean you REALLY have to enjoy the way the riech-wing will drive the bus over ANYONE who doesn't march in lock step with their fearless leaders. OF course it was all a hoax, of course he's a closet liberal, of course he's nothing but a greedy-do-anything-for-a-buck media whore... Of course the torture wasn't done right, Christopher Hitchens waterboarding adventure was nightmarish but Mancow, his was childs play... and it STILL scared the **** out of him.

    The article also erroneously claims he was paid (via 10k donation to charitry) by Keith Olberman to do the stunt and then appear on his show to talk about it. The truth is that Olberman decided to give the money to charity because he promised to donate if Hannity would grow a pair and do it. To try and claim that it was a publicity stunt organized by Olberman is just too funny.

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    Re: Conservative radio host gets waterboarded, and lasts six seconds before.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Lone Ranger View Post
    I can't believe this discredited story is still being debated. The Radio Equalizer: Brian Maloney: Chicago Radio Host's Waterboarding Stunt Backfires



    You know, I didn't even pick up on that. The link is absolutley right.


    He essentially had a bucket of water poured on him and he screamed like a schoolgirl.
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    Re: Conservative radio host gets waterboarded, and lasts six seconds before.....

    Quote Originally Posted by slippery slope View Post
    i mean you really have to enjoy the way the riech-wing will drive the bus over anyone who doesn't march in lock step with their fearless leaders. Of course it was all a hoax, of course he's a closet liberal, of course he's nothing but a greedy-do-anything-for-a-buck media whore... Of course the torture wasn't done right, christopher hitchens waterboarding adventure was nightmarish but mancow, his was childs play... And it still scared the **** out of him.

    The article also erroneously claims he was paid (via 10k donation to charitry) by keith olberman to do the stunt and then appear on his show to talk about it. The truth is that olberman decided to give the money to charity because he promised to donate if hannity would grow a pair and do it. To try and claim that it was a publicity stunt organized by olberman is just too funny.




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    Re: Conservative radio host gets waterboarded, and lasts six seconds before.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    I mean you REALLY have to enjoy the way the riech-wing will drive the bus over ANYONE who doesn't march in lock step with their fearless leaders. OF course it was all a hoax, of course he's a closet liberal, of course he's nothing but a greedy-do-anything-for-a-buck media whore... Of course the torture wasn't done right, Christopher Hitchens waterboarding adventure was nightmarish but Mancow, his was childs play... and it STILL scared the **** out of him.

    The article also erroneously claims he was paid (via 10k donation to charitry) by Keith Olberman to do the stunt and then appear on his show to talk about it. The truth is that Olberman decided to give the money to charity because he promised to donate if Hannity would grow a pair and do it. To try and claim that it was a publicity stunt organized by Olberman is just too funny.


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