Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.
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How many people walked away from the gas chambers?
How many people walked away from the acid showers?
How many people walked away from the ovens?
We waterboard out own ****ing soldiers in survival training for Peet's sake.
Do you recall when they were first building Git'mo, when they had to use temporary chain-link fencing because the perminint structures weren't up yet?
The detainees had to sleep on thin foam mats, no matrices, not even cots.
You leftists cried "torture, torture", such treatment was inhumane and barberic....until someone pointed out that those mats came from a Navy surplus, and were the exact same mats issued to every active solder at the time and was the exact same thing the solders stationed at Git'mo were sleeping on.
The left shut the **** up immediately.
So, the left doesn't have any, ANY credibility when it comes to judging rather something is actually torture or not.
We waterboard ourselves in training, did the Nazis give themselves acid baths?
We hit ourselves in training, did the Nazis lock themselves in Candide filled gas chambers?
We deprive ourselves of sleep for days at a time, did the Nazis put themselves in incinerators?
That is what I call "torture", but if you want to come along and change the definition of the word, then since my definition doesn't change with yours, I now support torture even though I haven't changed my opinion at all; you changed yours.