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    Re: Conservative radio host gets waterboarded, and lasts six seconds before.....

    Here is a list of the things Khalid Sheik Mohammed confessed to. The only things I find missing are the Kennedy assasination and fixing the Superbowl:

    The February 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center in New York City
    A failed "shoe bomber" operation
    The October 2002 attack in Kuwait
    The nightclub bombing in Bali, Indonesia
    A plan for a "second wave" of attacks on major U.S. landmarks after the 9/11 attacks, including the Library Tower in Los Angeles, the Sears Tower in Chicago, the Plaza Bank Building in Seattle and the Empire State Building in New York
    Plots to attack oil tankers and U.S. naval ships in the Straits of Hormuz, the Straits of Gibraltar and in Singapore
    A plan to blow up the Panama Canal
    Plans to assassinate Jimmy Carter
    A plot to blow up suspension bridges in New York City
    A plan to destroy the Sears Tower in Chicago with burning fuel trucks
    Plans to "destroy" Heathrow Airport, Canary Wharf and Big Ben in London
    A planned attack on "many" nightclubs in Thailand
    A plot targeting the New York Stock Exchange and other U.S. financial targets
    A plan to destroy buildings in Eilat, Israel
    Plans to destroy U.S. embassies in Indonesia, Australia and Japan in 2002.
    Plots to destroy Israeli embassies in India, Azerbaijan, the Philippines and Australia
    Surveying and financing an attack on an Israeli El-Al flight from Bangkok
    Sending several "mujahideen" into Israel to survey "strategic targets" with the intention of attacking them
    The November 2002 suicide bombing of a hotel in Mombasa, Kenya
    The failed attempt to shoot down an Israeli passenger jet leaving Mombasa airport in Kenya
    Plans to attack U.S. targets in South Korea
    Providing financial support for a plan to attack U.S., British and Jewish targets in Turkey
    Surveillance of U.S. nuclear power plants in order to attack them
    A plot to attack NATO's headquarters in Europe
    Planning and surveillance in a 1995 plan (the "Bojinka Operation") to bomb 12 American passenger jets
    The planned assassination attempt against then-U.S. President Bill Clinton during a mid-1990s trip to the Philippines.
    "Shared responsibility" for a plot to kill Pope John Paul II
    Plans to assassinate Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf
    An attempt to attack a U.S. oil company in Sumatra, Indonesia, "owned by the Jewish former [U.S.] Secretary of State Henry Kissinger"
    The beheading of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl

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    Re: Conservative radio host gets waterboarded, and lasts six seconds before.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    And thereby you could also say that the islamic jihadist is moral in his society as well.

    The point the "we-deny-it's-torture-until-enough-of-us-admit-it-is-and-now-our-mantra-is-we-don't-care-that-it's-torture" people seem to miss is that unless there are some basic moral issues that apply to all people then all you are left with is what a given society determines is or isn't moral.
    'If torture is good enough for the worlds leader to use, then it's good enough for us to use too...'
    The problem with your analysis is that the above was deemed true before we waterboarded a soul. The jihadist was considered moral both before and after in their society.

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    Re: Conservative radio host gets waterboarded, and lasts six seconds before.....

    Maybe someone has mentioned this but Mancow was waterboarded under conditions that gave him no fear for his life. Prisoners who are waterboarded may believe that they will actually be drowned. There is a big difference being waterboarded for real and being waterboarded as an experiment or media stunt.

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    Re: Conservative radio host gets waterboarded, and lasts six seconds before.....

    Quote Originally Posted by goldendog View Post
    so you're comfort level alllows for breaking American laws reguarding waterboarding and violating international treaties in reguards to warcrimes?
    Yes.


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    Re: Conservative radio host gets waterboarded, and lasts six seconds before.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Yes.


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    Bwahahahahahahaha............

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    Re: Conservative radio host gets waterboarded, and lasts six seconds before.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Yes.


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    So does your comfort level allow for those that condoned and approved of such unlawful acts be tried in a court of law and if found guilty the proper punishment be handed down by the courts?

    As we have done with other countries in the past?
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    Re: Conservative radio host gets waterboarded, and lasts six seconds before.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    And thereby you could also say that the islamic jihadist is moral in his society as well.
    Let's just cut the BS.

    The islamic jihadist is moral at least in his own mind. He is, in his own mind, courageous, righteous, even honorable. His cause is noble, his spirit pure. Whether other muslims agree or not is irrelevant; whether we agree or not is irrelevant. To the islamic jihadist, he is noble, we are ignoble; he is is saintly, we are sinners; he is righteous, we are infidels.

    Don't pretend that the islamic jihadist has any moral qualms about what he does. He doesn't. His morality is not ours. It is neither better nor worse, it is merely different.

    That is the order of things.

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    Re: Conservative radio host gets waterboarded, and lasts six seconds before.....

    Quote Originally Posted by goldendog View Post
    So does your comfort level allow for those that condoned and approved of such unlawful acts be tried in a court of law and if found guilty the proper punishment be handed down by the courts?

    As we have done with other countries in the past?
    Give them a Presidential Pardon at every opportunity, imo.
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    Re: Conservative radio host gets waterboarded, and lasts six seconds before.....

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    So I assume from your dismissal of the effects of waterboarding as something acceptable to your "personal comfort level", that you have indeed been waterboarded and know what the hell you are talking about?
    I embrace the effects of waterboarding...that's why I support it's employment.

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    Re: Conservative radio host gets waterboarded, and lasts six seconds before.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I embrace the effects of waterboarding...that's why I support it's employment.
    Nazi's tortured people to protect the homeland.

    And supported the apparent benifits of it's employment.

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