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    Re: North Korea conducts nuclear test

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    In 1953, there was only a cease-fire, no armstice or peace treaty.
    There also was never a declaration of war, so how could we technically be at war with NK?

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    Is it just a coincidence that NK has promised war if any of their ships are stopped and boarded? Iran has also launched warships into international waters. I should think that Obama should be over there talking to these people, since he said diplomacy is the key to solving foreign problems.

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    Re: North Korea conducts nuclear test

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    There also was never a declaration of war, so how could we technically be at war with NK?
    Ah... so Korea wasn't a war. Gotcha.


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    There need not be a declaration of war from Congress for a state of war to exist.

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    Re: North Korea conducts nuclear test

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    In 1953, there was only a cease-fire, no armstice or peace treaty.
    Despite the fact that there is no official peace treaty between North Korea and the United States, it's not quite correct to say that we're at war (even in a technical sense) because, technically, we weren't at war to begin with. The 1950-53 conflict was conducted under the aegis of the United Nations and was dubbed a "police action" by President Harry Truman. Congress never actually declared war, nor did it authorize a military engagement.

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    Re: North Korea conducts nuclear test

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Ah... so Korea wasn't a war. Gotcha.


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    There need not be a declaration of war from Congress for a state of war to exist.
    I'm afraid you are wrong. The USA is not technically at war unless congress declares it. You can use the word "war" all you want but when the rubber meets the road... you're simply wrong.

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    Re: North Korea conducts nuclear test

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    God? Allah? Zoroaster? Buddha?

    Let's remember that Bush was done talking to North Korea before the 6 party talks started. Slippery Slope is correct in that once you get a nuke, you're off limits to invasion. Bush didn't do squat because he couldn't do squat and now Bush II, I mean Obama is faced with the same circumstances.

    Personally, I think we should be a bit more afraid of North Korea renting out its scientists to anyone who will pay for nuclear expertise.
    Why do people continue to suggest that one need "invade" North Korea or farcically intimate that Bush wanted to?

    No one needs to invade any of these nations in order to force compliance. No one has ever endorsed a strategy that suggested "invasion." This is just more of the typical emotional hysterics from the left with no basis in fact or reality.

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    Re: North Korea conducts nuclear test

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    There also was never a declaration of war, so how could we technically be at war with NK?
    The definition of war so that those who continue to make the farcical claims that no war can exist without a formal congressional declaration can be better informed before making such inane remarks (please not the highlighted definitions):

    Main Entry: war !wor
    Pronunciation: \ ˈwȯr \
    Function: noun
    Etymology: Middle English werre, from Anglo-French werre, guerre, of Germanic origin; akin to Old High German werra strife; akin to Old High German werran to confuse
    Date: 12th century
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    1 a (1). a state of usually open and declared armed hostile conflict between states or nations (2) a period of such armed conflict (3) state of war b. the art or science of warfare c (1). obsolete weapons and equipment for war (2) archaic soldiers armed and equipped for war

    2 a. a state of hostility, conflict, or antagonism b. a struggle or competition between opposing forces or for a particular end - a class war - a war against disease c. variance odds

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    Re: North Korea conducts nuclear test

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    I'm afraid you are wrong.
    The USA is not technically at war unless congress declares it. You can use the word "war" all you want but when the rubber meets the road... you're simply wrong.
    No... I'm simply right.

    Nothing in the constitution says that the ONLY way for the US to be at a state of war is for Congress to decare war; it states only that the power for the US to declare war is reserved to Congress.

    Another state, thru its actions, can bring the US into a state of war, regardless of any actions Congress may or may not take.
    Last edited by Goobieman; 05-29-09 at 03:44 PM.

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    Re: North Korea conducts nuclear test

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Why do people continue to suggest that one need "invade" North Korea or farcically intimate that Bush wanted to?
    An acute case of Bush Derangement Syndrome, coupled with an terrible lack of knowledge and a complete lack of understading of logic?

    Bush did X in Iraq, and so we must do X everywhere, regardless of circumstance.


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    Re: North Korea conducts nuclear test

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    The definition of war so that those who continue to make the farcical claims that no war can exist without a formal congressional declaration can be better informed before making such inane remarks (please not the highlighted definitions):

    Main Entry: war !wor
    Pronunciation: \ ˈwȯr \
    Function: noun
    Etymology: Middle English werre, from Anglo-French werre, guerre, of Germanic origin; akin to Old High German werra strife; akin to Old High German werran to confuse
    Date: 12th century
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    1 a (1). a state of usually open and declared armed hostile conflict between states or nations (2) a period of such armed conflict (3) state of war b. the art or science of warfare c (1). obsolete weapons and equipment for war (2) archaic soldiers armed and equipped for war

    2 a. a state of hostility, conflict, or antagonism b. a struggle or competition between opposing forces or for a particular end - a class war - a war against disease c. variance odds
    So we are at war with Iran, Russia, Israel, China, Mexico, and pretty much any other country we are experience a "struggle" or have a "conflict" with?
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